breeding flat rocks?

atavuss

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Hi guys........anyone breed flat rocks before? Mike "Troll" is bringing his male flat rock over this weekend to try with my female, he has successfully bred and raised them before, just thought I would get any input beforehand.......
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hi all, anyone have any idea as to how long I should leave the male and female together? I have been feeding them as much as they want to eat (several crickets two or three times a week). other than when I first put them together I have not seen any breeding behaviour or courtship, they have taken to staying in the same hide side by side right next to each other.
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No, but when/if you do, please post details. I would like to work with them sometime.

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Originally posted by skinheaddave
No, but when/if you do, please post details. I would like to work with them sometime.

Cheers,
Dave
as an update, I put Mike's large male in with my female this afternoon, they are in a 15 quart sterilite container......I am going to set up a 66 quart sterilite container to give them more room. the female started the courtship "dance" several times with the male.
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Ed,

It might be worth your while to give the female time to aclimatize to any new enclosure before introducing the male. Especialy for scorpions not generaly kept communaly.

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Originally posted by skinheaddave
Ed,

It might be worth your while to give the female time to aclimatize to any new enclosure before introducing the male. Especialy for scorpions not generaly kept communaly.

Cheers,
Dave
hmmmm........good idea, I had not thought of that. thanks Dave!
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Ed,

No worries. That's why they pay me the big bucks. ;)

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oh wow...is it 'Pinchy' he brought over?
That's the only scorpian that I've been gaga over....
I met Pinchy at the ATS conference...and have been thinking about getting a flat rock ever since.
However, I don't really feel qualified to keep scorps...so maybe someday!
 

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This is "Squishy," Tamara's only scorpion to date. He is ... well ... flat. I had wanted to take a pic of how flat he was, but ran out of film before getting that far. Oh well, maybe next time.

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Dave

P.S. Holley, their venom is negligable and their care much simpler than most Ts. How can you not be qualified? Especially when you have the lot of us with nothing better to do than sit here and answer your questions?
 

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Originally posted by Immortal_sin
oh wow...is it 'Pinchy' he brought over?
That's the only scorpian that I've been gaga over....
I met Pinchy at the ATS conference...and have been thinking about getting a flat rock ever since.
However, I don't really feel qualified to keep scorps...so maybe someday!
LOL! yep, it is pinchy! I was kinda shocked when Mike pulled the huge flat rock out of his leather jacket pocket! I told Mike I was kind of worried that my female would eat Pinchy, Mike was telling me his wife and sons were saying "NOOOOoo, you can't take him to Ed's! ok......well, we wanna hold him one last time!" I will feel really bad if my lady harms him!
Holley, why do you say you don't feel qualified to keep scorps? many of them are very easy to care for, and very fascinating as well! many do not have "hot" venom either........I brought 15 c. excilicauda home from E. Anne to give to Mike and I rehoused them into 3 seperate enclosures.......good thing I checked Manny Rubio's scorp book and saw they are "HOT" before using my hands to grab them by their telson!
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Originally posted by skinheaddave
This is "Squishy," Tamara's only scorpion to date. He is ... well ... flat. I had wanted to take a pic of how flat he was, but ran out of film before getting that far. Oh well, maybe next time.

Cheers,
Dave

P.S. Holley, their venom is negligable and their care much simpler than most Ts. How can you not be qualified? Especially when you have the lot of us with nothing better to do than sit here and answer your questions?
Dave, is that a male, the metasoma looks kinda short for a male?
Ed
 

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ok guys...maybe I'll just have to get one sooner rather than later LOL!
I LOVED Pinchy! He was quite docile, although I understand that he is probably an exception, rather than the rule.
To be honest, they intimidate me...but they also fascinate me.
I had three of them once, and sent them on to Spider Hunter LOL!
Don't know what he did with them.
I had 2 female V carolinianis (spelling?) and one C vittatus (again, spelling?).
 

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enjoy........the infamous pinchy is in the front
 
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Originally posted by Immortal_sin
ok guys...maybe I'll just have to get one sooner rather than later LOL!
I LOVED Pinchy! He was quite docile, although I understand that he is probably an exception, rather than the rule.
To be honest, they intimidate me...but they also fascinate me.
I had three of them once, and sent them on to Spider Hunter LOL!
Don't know what he did with them.
I had 2 female V carolinianis (spelling?) and one C vittatus (again, spelling?).
Holley, do you have any of the really "oddball" inverts like solifugids, or amblypigids, or vinegaroons? they are really fascinating, the large vinegaroon I got from E. Anne is a bulldozer, its enclosure is never the same from day to day......I am going to move it to a large kritter keeper (it is in an opaque shoe box) so I can see it better.
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Ed,
only 1 millie, and a giant vinegaroon. We love him, he's a big guy!
What's really interesting is we've NEVER seen him eat. He must be shy about eating in front of us. Crickets disappear on a regular basis though! I would love to see how they even catch a cricket, but alas, it seems though he just won't cooperate!
 

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as an update my female flat rock has given birth to at least 4, maybe five babies within the last week. I was doing weekly maintanence and found her in the same hide with the male, they were facing off to each other. I noticed the week before she was VERY defensive. I guess I need to take the male out and let her rear the babies until they get to two or three instars? she must have been already gravid when I got her last fall as she could not have gestated in these few months since I first put her with Mike "Troll's" male (last december was when they were first together). I seem to remember they have a long gestation of a year or more?
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Ed, that is cool....I can't answer the question, as I know NOTHING about scorps, but having the babies is just too cool!
 

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Ed,

Congrats on the babies. You are right on both counts -- removing the male is a good idea and there is no way that they were from a mating only a few months ago.

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Dave
 

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Ed,
Just wait for the second go round. One of my H. troglodytes was already gravid when I got her, then bred her as well, the same as you. She gave birth the first time about 6 months ago and is preparing to deal out the second group now. Just be careful, if startled, they start spinning and when the young come down, they start eating from what I've heard.

later,
edw.
 

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Originally posted by XOskeletonRED
Ed,
Just wait for the second go round. One of my H. troglodytes was already gravid when I got her, then bred her as well, the same as you. She gave birth the first time about 6 months ago and is preparing to deal out the second group now. Just be careful, if startled, they start spinning and when the young come down, they start eating from what I've heard.

later,
edw.
how many babies did you get the first time around?
I removed the male yesterday.
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23 young popped the first go round. I am standing by to see the number of the second group. It shouldn't be long now. She's much larger than she was the first time! I'm only hoping this group will be consiting of smaller individuals and a larger number. It appears as though it will be though. Before, I could only see a couple large shadows through her sides and now I can see at least four but much smaller.


adios,
edw.
 
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