Birthday present-Need help deciding!

Lucara

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So, my boyfriend has offered to get me an early birthday present of my choice!

I can either get a...Dumpy frog oooorrr a bearded dragon!

I would like to get info on both to figure out which one is going to be the best choice to get.
Could I get thorough care sheets on both.

Info needed for EACH:

Including food from babies to adults for each
Cage sizes from babies to adults
Required equipment for both
Suppliments needed for both
Average purchase prices as babies for both.

Anything else extra would be much appreciated!
 

DrJ

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The bearded dragon will be much more entertaining.

Try this for the Dumpy (white's):
http://whitestreefrog.net/

And, this for the Bearded:
http://www.beardeddragoncaresheet.org/

Honestly, I only googled care sheets for both, and chose the ones that looked to be best overall. It is best to search out several care sheets and compare them.

I can tell you that a beardie will require much more space than the frog, as well as higher maintanence. The beardie will NEED UVB and a hot environment. It will also eat every day. Beardies like a mixed diet of veggies, fruits, tons of crickets and the occassional pinky mouse.

The frog will eat primarily crickets a few times per week. You could get by feeding just a few crickets twice a week. Crickets are the BEST meal option for your frog as the "worms" don't have a good ratio of calcium to phosphorous. The excessive phosphorous could cause problematic calcium absorption in the long run, so only use the worms as occassional meal items, but don't rely on them.

Truthfully, I would go with the Bearded Dragon. They are more active, and interact with people more than do frogs. Though they eat more and cost more to maintain, they are worth it. I personally find the frogs boring, but if you want one I mean no offense by it!

Bearded's start (practically) at $30 and go up to however much you feel you can afford. They come in a large variety of color morphs! Some of them are truly amazing. :)

You should be able to find the Dumpy tree frog for $20, or there-abouts.

*These price quotes don't include shipping, and were found on Kingsnake.com
 

Gold Skulltula

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I can't provide a full care sheet, I do not own either species, but I can add one little reminder to the above poster. Beardies require quite large enclosures as adults. I believe that 40gal breeders are the absolute smallest tank recommended for them, and most keepers feel these are too small for them ultimately. If you're committed to a huge tank, lots of interaction, and daily care, go for the Beardie.
 

Lucara

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So the beardie is out. I just dont have the space for something that large.

So, I'm thinking about maybe leopard geckos? They're as expressive as beardies but not as demanding or space restricting as beardies.
Any simple care sheets on these guys?
 

AzJohn

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If you are thinking about geckos, check out crested geckos. They are really cool as well. Plus they can be fed a prepared diet.

John
 

DrJ

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On leopard geckos, I've found VMS to be excellent with selling their geckos and suggestions for care. Though I would use a different set-up (display) than mentioned here, this is a great care sheet:
http://www.vmsherp.com/LCKeepingLeopards.htm
Also, check out their other sheets in their education section. Their "course" on genetics is very interesting, and makes getting into it fun.

Their less intimidating guide is here: http://www.vmsherp.com/CarePages/CareLeopard.htm

I would also recommend looking into fat-tail geckos and crested geckos. Kinda depends on what you're into. Leopards and fat-tails cannot climb, and eat a TON of crickets compared to the crested. Crested can live completely on prepared diets, and then feed crickets as a treat every once in a while.

Pros and cons: Leopards and fat-tails can be seen most of the time, or frequently. Though, they cannot climb glass...which is a plus to some people. They eat primarily crickets...which can be stinky/noisey. Cresteds hide most of the time and you generally have to search for them in their cage. They can eat a prepared diet their entire lives and do best on such, but it can be fun to give them crickets as a treat. Cresteds also have to be misted every day to keep their humidity up.

Here's a caresheet from VMS on fat-tails:
http://www.vmsherp.com/CarePages/CareFatTail.htm

And one on cresteds:
http://www.vmsherp.com/CarePages/CareRhacs.htm
 

tarantulaholic

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check some videos in youtube about the specific animal, youll pretty much get an idea how they eat and interact.
For frog, I highly recommend Pixie frog (afican bullfrog). <they can eat !!! or pacman frogs, like ornate/albino cranwellis dont get as big a pixie frog.
A blood red beardie dragon would look very nice too !!!
 

LeilaNami

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Dumpy frogs are cute too! They are more personable than lets say the green tree frog that's commonly sold in the states.
 

GiantVinegaroon

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So the beardie is out. I just dont have the space for something that large.

So, I'm thinking about maybe leopard geckos? They're as expressive as beardies but not as demanding or space restricting as beardies.
Any simple care sheets on these guys?
you can find great caresheets on google! see if ron tremper has any caresheets available.

by the way they have nowhere near as much personality as beardies in my experience with both
 
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