Australian Ts - Opinions and facts

Ftang5

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Yeah I did have a look at JJ's, they seemed to be out of stock on a lot which is understandable, I'll have to see what they've got next time I'm looking for a T My new little dude has decided to bury herself, not sure when the last time she ate or molt so we'll see when she feels like coming out

yeah john sells out quick but ive just been in contact with him and he will have a wide variety of slings in january/feburay 2020 i am very excited as they will have phlogius pq113 slings too! if you are willing to get a larger more skittish spider pq113 seems to be very colorful or atleast more colorful than usual, heres a photo i found on the internet: https://www.google.com/search?q=phl...AUIEigB&biw=1366&bih=657#imgrc=UcTd8in1ts8SDM:

very colorful indeed as well as this john will have the usual selenotypus banana, champagne, wallace and all the usual flavors of phlogius but if you want a really docile (australian standards) species john will have selenotypus sp rosea plumipes or the red form of S.plumipes,
honestly, i think i won't have a first T..
ill have 3.
 

Avis15

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yeah john sells out quick but ive just been in contact with him and he will have a wide variety of slings in january/feburay 2020 i am very excited as they will have phlogius pq113 slings too! if you are willing to get a larger more skittish spider pq113 seems to be very colorful or atleast more colorful than usual, heres a photo i found on the internet: https://www.google.com/search?q=phl...AUIEigB&biw=1366&bih=657#imgrc=UcTd8in1ts8SDM:

very colorful indeed as well as this john will have the usual selenotypus banana, champagne, wallace and all the usual flavors of phlogius but if you want a really docile (australian standards) species john will have selenotypus sp rosea plumipes or the red form of S.plumipes,
honestly, i think i won't have a first T..
ill have 3.
Looks like I'll be getting my 2nd (and maybe 4th and 5th and 6th...) start of next year then
 

dragonblade71

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RezonantVoid: “Still some interesting ones their like Sarina of all species and Isometries Melanodactylus. If you like, I can take one for the team and test out their service.”

Gosh, I wouldn't want you to fork out too much cash. If you were keen, you could get something cheap (even a non-tarantula / other invert.)

I notice they classify the Rattlesnake T as Selenotholus. I wasn't even aware that it was assigned a genus. Or perhaps it has. It almost looks like a Phlogius in this video but I also see some traits of the arid obligate burrowers as well:


Ftang, I'm sure the Kotzman would make some impressive sounds but according to Steve Nunn, the Rattler is the loudest stridulator. And Dr Raven commented that if there was a group of six people talking, the sounds produced by the Rattler would be louder than them.
 

RezonantVoid

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RezonantVoid: “Still some interesting ones their like Sarina of all species and Isometries Melanodactylus. If you like, I can take one for the team and test out their service.”

Gosh, I wouldn't want you to fork out too much cash. If you were keen, you could get something cheap (even a non-tarantula / other invert.)

I notice they classify the Rattlesnake T as Selenotholus. I wasn't even aware that it was assigned a genus. Or perhaps it has. It almost looks like a Phlogius in this video but I also see some traits of the arid obligate burrowers as well:


Ftang, I'm sure the Kotzman would make some impressive sounds but according to Steve Nunn, the Rattler is the loudest stridulator. And Dr Raven commented that if there was a group of six people talking, the sounds produced by the Rattler would be louder than them.
I personally don't think the rattler has an assigned genus, I believe he's just done it himself. I took the plunge and enquired about an Isometrus, but I fully intend on making him whittle the price down on the rattlesnake because in all honesty, it's just a loud brown T. Nothing more, nothing less. No fancy colours, no large size, no unique physical characteristics, just damn loud. And that is not something anybody will pay $540 or $850 for

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They bare ALOT of resemblance to Selenocosmia Stirlingi, so I personally think they are a new genus of Selenocosmiinae
 
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Ftang5

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Pq113 is a semi readily available species, I actually have one but she's too little to display much colour. Very little info on them, as one can tell by the fact they don't even have a proper species name

the google image search for pq11is conflicting showing vibrant blue and white T's but also usual brown sp00ders and after talking to jack from jj's he says the females are usually brown while the males are the ones with the vibrant colors, i guess its a consolation prize if your pq113 becomes a male, at least you get a very handsome spider.
 

Ftang5

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Ftang, I'm sure the Kotzman would make some impressive sounds but according to Steve Nunn, the Rattler is the loudest stridulator. And Dr Raven commented that if there was a group of six people talking, the sounds produced by the Rattler would be louder than them.
does anyone have a recording of a kotzman vocalizing? there are no results on trusty google and all videos about kotzman dont show kotzman being aggressive or stridulating
 

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does anyone have a recording of a kotzman vocalizing? there are no results on trusty google and all videos about kotzman dont show kotzman being aggressive or stridulating
Let me assure you they aren't much louder than any other T but they do it much more readily
 

dragonblade71

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By the way, I was partly responsible for the common name given to Phlogius Ghost. A number of years ago, Steve Nunn introduced the species on the ATA forum and described the colouration as a 'ghostly white.' He then asked the forum members to offer some suggestions for possible names. Based on Steve's description, I suggested 'Ghost' and also 'Spirit.' And so Steve selected 'Ghost.' However, I really don't know if 'Ghost' will be just a temporary place holder or if it will stick long term within the pet hobby. And of course, it's still a long way off from having a valid scientific name.
 

Ftang5

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I dont/didnt have the will power to wait till febuary for a first T so i jumped on gummtree and sure enough someone is selling 10 month old wally slings for 15 bucks.
She should be here wednesday she gets shipped monday, i have 2 names but cant decide which one should i use, Artemis or Providence?
 

RezonantVoid

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10 month old Selenotypus is probably 10mm long lol. Looking forward to seeing her
 

Ftang5

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10 month old Selenotypus is probably 10mm long lol. Looking forward to seeing her
yeah they are the size of a 10 cent peice, but i post a pic when she gets here
also rez hope you arent in the path of the nsw fires.
 

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yeah they are the size of a 10 cent peice, but i post a pic when she gets here
also rez hope you arent in the path of the nsw fires.
Nah mate Grafton is pretty much a big evac centre at the moment, alot around us coming here for shelter but it's half surrounded by the Clarence river so that's a decent fire barrier. Unfortunately there's a fire that I believe wiped out a quite unique species of Arbanitis along the coast, if so I may have the only specimens left
 

Ftang5

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well that sucks, can you breed your current specimens and release some back into the wild, single handedly saving a species? also i see you are into trapdoors aswell john at jj's has a 4.95$ idiosoma sling, and ive also been after a trap door so is this a good starter species?
 

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well that sucks, can you breed your current specimens and release some back into the wild, single handedly saving a species? also i see you are into trapdoors aswell john at jj's has a 4.95$ idiosoma sling, and ive also been after a trap door so is this a good starter species?
Yea @Dave1969 passed one on to me. As slings they seen stress free enough but some species turn them into a "problem genus" if bought as WC adults. If you're after the best starter genus, Arbanitis is the way to go, and I have several hundred captive bred slings with me if you'd like a few.

Dunno if I'd be able to restock the wild population of this particular one as I don't know if I have any immature males. It's also a tricky one to keep, requiring a seemingly specialised mixture of cocopeat and sand and very low ventilation and nearly wet substrate. Ive lost 2 that dried out slightly
 

Ftang5

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Yea @Dave1969 passed one on to me. As slings they seen stress free enough but some species turn them into a "problem genus" if bought as WC adults. If you're after the best starter genus, Arbanitis is the way to go, and I have several hundred captive bred slings with me if you'd like a few.

Dunno if I'd be able to restock the wild population of this particular one as I don't know if I have any immature males. It's also a tricky one to keep, requiring a seemingly specialised mixture of cocopeat and sand and very low ventilation and nearly wet substrate. Ive lost 2 that dried out slightly
how much for a sling, to save on postage costs it could go in the same shipment as the P.rubiseta sling ill buy off you.
 

dragonblade71

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On the topic of repopulating wild spider populations, I really hope that some breeders can do that with Aussie tarantulas. There have been reports of local tarantula populations being wiped out by poachers in some parts of Queensland. It does sound like some species are under threat.
 

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On the topic of repopulating wild spider populations, I really hope that some breeders can do that with Aussie tarantulas. There have been reports of local tarantula populations being wiped out by poachers in some parts of Queensland. It does sound like some species are under threat.
Pretty sure Stents and Rubiseta are both nearly gone or already gone around their natural range, but could be wrong so don't quote me on that. Stents used to be dead common with sellers but now I haven't seen them in almost a year
 

Ftang5

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she gets here today, my first tarantula! ill take a picture when she arrives. i have her set up in 10cm of substrate a shallow milk bottle cap with some small stone in as a water dish and until she makes a burrow ive cut one of those woolworthsgarden promotion coconut fibre pots in half as a hide. her enclosure is a 12 x 20 cm critter keeper. anything i should change?
 
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