Anyone know of Centruroides limbatus available?
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I suspect there will be a whole lot of captive breds of this species in Europe next year, and then there's a chance that some of them will end up in the US.
This species has been in the hobby for years, it grows extremely fast, and is no harder to breed than other Centruroides species in my experience. So it's strange that this species isn't as common as many of the other Centruroides spp. we see in the hobby.
This species has been in the hobby for years, it grows extremely fast, and is no harder to breed than other Centruroides species in my experience. So it's strange that this species isn't as common as many of the other Centruroides spp. we see in the hobby.
Males mature at 5th instar & females at 6th instar. YGPM.
All of my adult C. limbatus (7.8) has matured at 6th and 7th instar. Males at 6th, and females at 7th. All of my adult females are gravid, and I know of several others with gravid females, so there will be a lot of these in the hobby very soon.
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There is a limbatus-like:? species floating around the US(babies) but not everybody agrees with each other on the species. I'm wondering if they are margaritatus. They are from Costa Rica. They were labeled bicolor at first. But they don't seem to key out that way. The adults and babies are at the Zookeeper in Austin Tx. I saw that they are selling the babies for about $8 the last time I was there. I don't think the adults are for sale.
If they are, then what everyone was calling margaritatus before is something else entirely...which wouldn't surprise me at all haha..Damn Centruroides.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Do you know of the ones I'm talking about advertised at the Zookeeper? Did you get babies too? I've seen so many pics. I know man, I've read so much info but I don't know what is true anymore. I had the adults from the Zookeeper on loan for a while, they are pretty big. The female at 4 inches and the male at a solid 5. I've got many babies but I want to let them grow up and get a bunch of babies to chunk out there but I may get rid of a few sooner. A few other people have babies from them too and plan on doing the same I think. The male is here in this vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl5jaSkuGfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl5jaSkuGfk
Centruroides bicolor is a species on its own
Centruroides margaritatus is a species on its own
Centruroides margaritatus "bicolor" is a morph of Centruroides margaritatus
None of the above are really C. limbatus-like, C. bicolor is the clossest in appearance and yet not close enough.
And now back to our regularly scheduled thread about C. limbatus!
Centruroides margaritatus is a species on its own
Centruroides margaritatus "bicolor" is a morph of Centruroides margaritatus
None of the above are really C. limbatus-like, C. bicolor is the clossest in appearance and yet not close enough.
And now back to our regularly scheduled thread about C. limbatus!
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I think what gets in the US gets easily mis-ID'd because of people glancing at an internet pic and jumping too fast at an ID There are many pics of scorps that look different having the same ID below pics on the internet when it comes to these species. I know it's happened twice, people thinking they have C. bicolor here in the US, ..but turned out not be bicolor, at least not likely. Rasputin, have you come across good pics of these with undisputable IDs?, or has anybody else? Anybody, if you don't think it would help the thread, then I would very much appreciate sending me links in a PM of good pics you have confidence in, but only if you have them handy, I don't want to bother somebody else spending time looking around, I can do that and have been looking at pdfs, scetches, drawings, the best thing to do (but don't have the adults anymore). I found this pic so I suppose IheartMantids may know of a source for C. bicolor http://www.insectgeeks.com/gallery/view/id_2401/field_time/title_Centruroides-bicolor-molting/. I don't see him on the ABoards that often though, looks like he started to visit another forum more. But if that scorpion there Ihearts has on that page came from the adults at the Zookeeper, so far, they don't look to be C. bicolor. Babies were sold in the US as C. bicolor so for anybody buying babies, it'd be good to check it out the source. I'm looking at more pdfs in the mean time but I can't attempt another dentition count.
Who the heck is zookeeper?
The following are from Vincent and Tom over at Exotics.NL - in the Netherlands
C. margaritatus
Centruroides margaritatus 'yellow morph'
C. margaritatus morenoi
C. margaritatus "red" <--this is what we call the "bicolor" morph
C. limbatus
The following pic came from ScorpionFiles and was taken by Dr. Carlos Viquez
C. bicolor Click here (I forgot about that whole not posting the actual pic from Scorpion Files so as to protect whoevers copyright)
The following are from Vincent and Tom over at Exotics.NL - in the Netherlands
C. margaritatus
Centruroides margaritatus 'yellow morph'
C. margaritatus morenoi
C. margaritatus "red" <--this is what we call the "bicolor" morph
C. limbatus
The following pic came from ScorpionFiles and was taken by Dr. Carlos Viquez
C. bicolor Click here (I forgot about that whole not posting the actual pic from Scorpion Files so as to protect whoevers copyright)
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Dangit!, the computer is like a magnet! OK, the pics, thanks, yip, ..seen most of those pics on the net. So many color morphs within some species, interesting though, I don't think I've seen the margaritatus morenoi pic before. From a glance, the adults I had look most like those I'd say. Too bad I don't have them anymore. The Zookeeper is an exotic pet store in Austin. They have a website that is not well known, they go more for the brick and mortar thing, ..so far. They DEFinitely don't have a full list of the inverts in the store on their page and I don't know how excited they are about shipping but I know they do, at least sometimes. Shipping could be a regular thing for them, don't know. They have several of those scorplings from Costa Rica in the store(last time I checked). They like talking about inverts if anyone wants to call and talk to them about it or ordering stuff(?) (512-453-8800), of course, they have email. http://www.zookeeperexotics.com/ZooKeeper/Home.html They may still be convinced they are bicolor and I can't say they aren't, but I personally haven't been convinced of an ID yet.
This is what was "being sold" a few years ago, they are C. margaritatus "bicolor". I got this particular brood from Evalduxx in Lithuania and the ones pictured were at i2. I hope this eliminated any confusion any of you may have over the species identification. As I noted in the last string of photos, Vincent and Tom from Exotics.NL have these marked as the C. margaritatus "red", they are the same species - it's just a matter of toe-mae-toe/toe-ma-toe.
C. margaritatus "bicolor" i2
C. margaritatus "bicolor" i2
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C. m. morenoi is actually a subspecies and if anybody stateside actually has a few...you won't hear about it for a while - some things are kept quiet until a generation or two down the line and then you'll hear about it.
Can I send you to that store to do some shopping for me? That place is cheap!
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Well maybe they ship, I bet they do. Yeah, they are pretty cheap, man I hope they don't read this or they will raise their prices. People could email and get a full list, there is much more there than listed on the site. I know they need to move some stuff, that's what I was told last time I was there.