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Yesterday after cutting grass I went to put it in our garden bin and this guy was inside . I can't find him on Google I have been trying since yesterday. He is about 2 inch dls and as you can see is cream with gray/brown legs . I thought at first he may have been an Eratagina but now I am not sure as I can't find any that lightly coloured. I dropped him a cricket so I could get a better pic of him and as you can see he is stunning and happily took the cricket 😊 any help would be grateful. As I said in the uk North East so if you've got an idea please say because I need to know what he is.(I am very curious about him as I haven't seen one like him.)
 

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Do you have any shots of the spinnerets and the entire web?

About how large are the spider and its web?
 

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It is difficult to get it to come out of the web enough but I will try today he usually sits in his tunnel facing out and I never seen him move before I dropped the cricket in.

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Do you have any shots of the spinnerets and the entire web?

About how large are the spider and its web?
It's about a 2 inch dls and the web takes one corner of my bin 20210419_180653.jpg
It's the one at the top not bottom
 
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I'm thinking it's something in Agelenidae, but the spinnerets would help confirm or dispute. (Agelenids will have long, thin spinnerets.)

Ventral shots of agelenids can be useful in identifying the genus or even the species, but you're unlikely to get one in situ (while it's in its web).
 

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I'm thinking it's something in Agelenidae, but the spinnerets would help confirm or dispute. (Agelenids will have long, thin spinnerets.)

Ventral shots of agelenids can be useful in identifying the genus or even the species, but you're unlikely to get one in situ (while it's in its web).
It has long spinnerets I have seen them 20210419_182509.jpg
The purple dot is where they end sorry the pic quality isn't the best I only have my phone and I did get it to turn around but you can't really see its spinnerets 20210420_132154.jpg 20210420_132139.jpg
When I tickled the web there was no reaction it wasn't until my son came to look (he is7) that it turned into it's funnel and I snapped a few pics these were the best I got.
 

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A very handsome spider with those dark legs and lighter colored body but I'm drawing a blank in the eratigena tegenaria images on bug guide - going by coloration and an apparent lack of pronounced spinnerets. It appears all agelenids have some sort of fancy custom paint jobs on the body which this one seems a little lacking.
 
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A very handsome spider with those dark legs and lighter colored body but I'm drawing a blank in the eratigena tegenaria images on bug guide - going by coloration and an apparent lack of pronounced spinnerets. It appears all agelenids have some sort of fancy custom paint jobs on the body which this one seems a little lacking.
I thought he was pretty too I have never seen anything with colours like that here in the uk. I did the same as you and have tried to find another one on the interwebs but no luck . I have left him in our grass bin though, and when ever I have opened the lid he doesn't seem bothered he doesn't move , only moved when I dropped the cricket and when my son accidentally kicked the side of the bin when he came to look , even then only to go down his funnel. I did consider collecting him but I don't know how many there are in my garden and I don't want to hurt their population or if its a genetic thing I want to see if he passes it down 😊 Not being able to find him on the interwebs makes me think he is rare so I don't want to disturb him. My son has named him Oscar because he lives in our bin 😆
 

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My son has named him Oscar because he lives in our bin
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Only spider that I've found that comes close in appearance is the Tunnel Web which is a NZ or Aus native. A black lace weaver looks similar but wrong web.
 
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Only spider that I've found that comes close in appearance is the Tunnel Web which is a NZ or Aus native. A black lace weaver looks similar but wrong web.
Maybe he is a undescribed species? I wouldn't even know where to start looking into things like that, maybe if I try looking for a specialist in my area. I wonder if there is some sort of list of all the uk spiders with pics somewhere on the interwebs.... I know the other spider he shares the bin with is a Tegeneria because it looks just like my Tetchy (my captive T.Domestica ) and they seem to co exist quite happily. He also has 2 moults in his web so I would think he has been there for a while .
I am doing my own head in with this lol I just need to know what he is, I just can't let it go for whatever reason 😅
..... I think maybe because I can't find another like him. Usually I can find them either on my own or with help from here, but I am genuinely stumped with Oscar.
 

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Maybe he is a undescribed species? I wouldn't even know where to start looking into things like that, maybe if I try looking for a specialist in my area. I wonder if there is some sort of list of all the uk spiders with pics somewhere on the interwebs....
From the pinned Spider ID Resources:

None of the species on the UK Safari site looked like a perfect match, but I think the family is likely Agelenidae. We might not be able to get further without clearer photos.
 

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From the pinned Spider ID Resources:

None of the species on the UK Safari site looked like a perfect match, but I think the family is likely Agelenidae. We might not be able to get further without clearer photos.
I will try again today I am not sure if I can though I have never been good at taking pics lol maybe if I move the bin so I can get round the side then try a cricket again .
I also tried those sites but same as you I had no luck, I have now resorted to emails spider I.d and the natural history museum they had a bit where I could so I did . I tried to do the same on uk safari too 😊 I am determined to find out this spiders species 🙃 he is just so handsome I hope there is more like him in my garden 😆
 

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(pardon me for saying it but) we really need to scope on it's butt. Spinnerets are probably your best bet at ball parking it.
 

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(pardon me for saying it but) we really need to scope on it's butt. Spinnerets are probably your best bet at ball parking it.
Any tips on getting Oscar to come out so I can get a better pic without trying to cup him? I don't think I could without destroying his web because of where he is situated. I am not very tall so I have problems reaching over to him. I have plans to try this evening at dusk to get more pics in hope I might catch him out. My phone does do HD pics but not when I zoom close enough to see him properly 😑 I may have to try and order a phone lens so I can try to get a better close up.
 

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I would just check the bin from time to time, and with luck there might be a good opportunity to take a pic. I know you are curious and want to identify it, but at the end of the day it's just a spider doing its spider things. No hurry. :)
 
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Any tips on getting Oscar to come out so I can get a better pic without trying to cup him? I don't think I could without destroying his web because of where he is situated. I am not very tall so I have problems reaching over to him. I have plans to try this evening at dusk to get more pics in hope I might catch him out. My phone does do HD pics but not when I zoom close enough to see him properly 😑 I may have to try and order a phone lens so I can try to get a better close up.
A long piece of grass or similar and gently touch the web. You'll lure that little stunner out.

I really want to find out what sp now as I looked for ages yesterday and couldn't find an exact match on line.
 

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A long piece of grass or similar and gently touch the web. You'll lure that little stunner out.

I really want to find out what sp now as I looked for ages yesterday and couldn't find an exact match on line.
I got no reaction but he has a large abdomen so he may not be hungry he just sat there I tried to tickle right next to his feet even nothing he just sat there lol gonna try dropping a cricket later see if that helps. These were all I got so far because Oscar won't move lol and I think definitely a he . 20210421_151652.jpg 20210421_151522.jpg
Fingers crossed with sundown will come hunger and the hunt and better pics lol.
 

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