A closer look at: Psalmopoeus irminia (Venezuelan Suntiger)

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Hey Storm just wanted to say thanks. P. irminia are no doubt my favorite T. My little babies just got the lightning bolt front legs. Sigh, they grow up so fast XD. Loving raising them from a sling, sadly my last turned out to be an adult male who got eaten. But four babies so fingers crossed for one girl!


Again, thanks. Great thread.
 

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Great write-up. My mature male got way more defensive after maturing a few weeks ago. I knew their venom was a bit more painful than that of other NW T's, although now I have even more respect for him haha.

Actually about kritter keepers, it's possible to do this if you don't have anything else at the time.

Btw, I'm new to this forum and I cant find a specific category in the forum that's meant for posting articles like these (Species info/Care sheets). I think there should be.
I think the reason there's no sub-section for care-sheets, is that there's so much information on this board, one would find tons of it just using the search function.

As for your picture: I'm aware you "can" do it, if nothing else is at hand, but I still wouldn't recommend it for maintenance reasons. Besides - my comment was angled towards final housing and for an adult I'd always opt for a fitting enclosure doing the T justice :).

Hey Storm just wanted to say thanks. P. irminia are no doubt my favorite T. My little babies just got the lightning bolt front legs. Sigh, they grow up so fast XD. Loving raising them from a sling, sadly my last turned out to be an adult male who got eaten. But four babies so fingers crossed for one girl!

Again, thanks. Great thread.
Thank you and you're right - they grow up so fast! :) Lovely, lovely species / genus!
 

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I think the reason there's no sub-section for care-sheets, is that there's so much information on this board, one would find tons of it just using the search function.

As for your picture: I'm aware you "can" do it, if nothing else is at hand, but I still wouldn't recommend it for maintenance reasons. Besides - my comment was angled towards final housing and for an adult I'd always opt for a fitting enclosure doing the T justice :).
Yes of course =) I have no doubt there's tons of info, I meant more that maybe it could have its own index so it's cleaner. ^^

Oh, and I just put it in that until I get two more 20x20x40 in a few days. Poor thing really needed an upgrade after the last molt. I completely agree about doing it justice, that's why I don't like when people have more animals then they can give nice enclosures too. I plan on owning only 5-7 adult species at the same time and that's it. If I do want more I'll make sure I have room and housing. :)

Again, great info!
 

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Hey Storm just wanted to say thanks. P. irminia are no doubt my favorite T. My little babies just got the lightning bolt front legs. Sigh, they grow up so fast XD. Loving raising them from a sling, sadly my last turned out to be an adult male who got eaten. But four babies so fingers crossed for one girl!


Again, thanks. Great thread.
Thank you and good luck on getting a nice female. Not to mention enjoy the hours of waiting in front of the enclosure in hopes she'll show up once adult :p

Yes of course =) I have no doubt there's tons of info, I meant more that maybe it could have its own index so it's cleaner. ^^

Oh, and I just put it in that until I get two more 20x20x40 in a few days. Poor thing really needed an upgrade after the last molt. I completely agree about doing it justice, that's why I don't like when people have more animals then they can give nice enclosures too. I plan on owning only 5-7 adult species at the same time and that's it. If I do want more I'll make sure I have room and housing. :)

Again, great info!
I have a few of my specimens in KKs, but those are only terrestrials (Brachypelma spp. for example), or temporary for raising them (GBB female gets final enclosure after next molt for example). Everything else has appropriate enclosures for adutls. By the way @lalberts9310 - looks like my fasciata girl doesn't understand the meaning of "hide" or "hiding" - she's glued to the side of the enclosure for some reason and only moves around during night. Pretty calm lately, too. YAY - another oddball! :p
 

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="gypsy cola, post: 2439191, member: 82637"]thanks to your thread I just picked up a sling yesterday at my lps....you owe me 10$
I have to slings as well, crazy fast!
You'll enjoy them,voracious eaters :). One of mine threw a threat pose at me this morning for filling its water dish. 5 cm legspan...already feisty!
 

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I have to slings as well, crazy fast!
You'll enjoy them,voracious eaters :). One of mine threw a threat pose at me this morning for filling its water dish. 5 cm legspan...already feisty!
"Already" - my 2nd girl, "Firali", gave me threat-postures with fangs bared from 1.5" onward haha! The personality is very much there :p
 

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Kudos on the absolutely extraordinary effort on this post. This is the kind of reference resource that runs the gamut of experience levels; informational for beginners on up, and a well done "how to" guide for the more experienced desiring to broaden their T horizons. I particularly appreciate the experienced based model of the post. We need A LOT more stuff like this!
 

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A closer look at...Psalmopoeus irminia – (Venezuelan Suntiger)

Background
This species was first described in 1994, by F. Saager and hails from Venezuela. To be more exact: Reportedly especially the areas around San Ignacio, St.Elena, Roraima-Tepui, Gran Sabana, Estado Guyana. They were first spotted in March 1991 – so it took 3 years for them to make it into the described species list. I will include links to the relevant references at the end of the post. For more detailed information, look there.

P. irminia are one of the most beautiful tarantulas out there (alright – I'm biased since they're my favorite actually!) with their orange chevrons on the legs and the tiger stripes on the abdomen it brought them the nickname „Nike spider“. The prominent color is black, aside from those striking markings and a somewhat greenish carapace. The look of their legs is often compared to „pipe-cleaners“ as the satae on them are very feathery. In addition, this is a New World species, but lacks any urticating bristles which can usually be found on NW tarantulas. None of the described species in the genus has any, instead they're very agile and carry a stronger venom (later more about this). The species is sexually dimorphic and males, aside being a good idea smaller than the females, look very drab grey instead of black once mature. The maximum size for these is reportedly 5-6“ for an adult female, personally I haven't seen one over 5.5“ thus far. Both of my girls are around 5.25-5.5“. Males max out at around 4-4.5".

The climate in the regions mentioned above is humid and considered tropical rainforest (Climate diagram example for St. Elena CLICKY) except for the dry-season during the summer months. Interestingly, smaller specimens seem to seek the warmer spots, while older rather use the cooler shades. Despite the fact that this is an arboreal species, it should be mentioned that they tend to live semi-arboreal in captivity. In their habitat, they can usually be found on the bark of trees, in holes of the same, or even lower to the ground around the roots.

Sacs from this species carry between 50-200 eggs and the genus is able to double-clutch (dropping another sac after molting) without another pairing, although this isn't guaranteed to happen.


How to keep
Especially as slings, these tend to burrow quite some and display already the semi-arboreal lifestyle that is typical for them. Enclosures for Psalmopoeus spp. are very easy to set up:

Corkbark-tube or -slab leaned against one side of the enclosure, a few plastic plant pieces or natural plants (I prefer the first since it's less maintenance) and around ~3“ of substrate. Eco-Earth works best for them due to their predisposition to build an underground chamber below their hide, but you can use cocofiber, too. Personally, I keep the substrate slightly moist, letting it dry out during the summer as it does in their natural habitat. Don't create a swamp, though! A waterdish and good ventilation round out the decorations necessary. Adults do well in 2.5 – 5 gal tanks with good ventilation at 20-28°C – KritterKeepers should NOT be used for these! Letting the sub dry out some during summer, helps keeping it close to what they're used to in nature.

If you decide to get this species, no matter as spiderling to raise yourself, or a juvie / adult already – do not expect to see them a lot! Especially during the day, these usually stay hidden and are mainly out between 9pm and 3am judging from my couple females. Oh and did I mention they tend to web up any spots that you could peek in on them from? :) Typical behavior for them.

In terms of feeding they eat pretty much anything from roaches, crickets, mealworms, superworms or even locusts. I never had to feed prekilled at any point while raising them.

Since this question comes up very often from people trying their hands on them the first time: A sealed hide usually means the T is in premolt and doesn't want to be disturbed! Don't tear the webbing apart and drop feeders in there – chances are you'll either face an immensely annoyed spider that will tell you immediately to back off, or worst case the feeder hurts/kills your tarantula! Leave them be if they seal themself in – keep waterdish filled and otherwise be patient. Psalmopoeus irminia are out when hungry during the night often...


Temperament / Toxicity
Alright, here's probably the part that is viewed very differently from people. This is my opinion based on raising my own girls, seing those from friends and the information from befriended breeders – so if you don't agree, that's fine. Here we go...

Out of the whole genus, this particular species is probably the most defensive (due to pretty low threshold for disturbances), in additition to being teleporters with their extreme speed and agility, this doesn't really qualify them as a good choice for 1st tarantula. If disturbed, for the most part they will immediately vanish into their hide, but a fair amount are more confrontational than the rest. One of my females will retaliate any disturbance immediately with a threat-posture, fangs bared and, if -really- annoyed: Venom dripping. She would charge to the top of the enclosure at times to let me know it's time to back off. Interestingly, this is the one I raised from a sling. The other one, that was my 1st tarantula (yes – it can be done, but not everyone is prepared for what they have in store for potential keepers) is very laid back actually. I think one particular statement should defininately be mentioned here: Psalmopoeus spp. Are very unpredictable and they often give you more grief than, say a Poecilotheria spp because of that. One may ask „Why?“ now and the explanation to that isn't easy. Don't get me wrong: I truely love the whole genus – no questions asked! I've kept pulcher, langenbucheri and still have a couple irminia and one cambridgei – so I've made my experiences! But the fact is that these have the trick to lull their keepers into a sense of false security and then suddenly exploding! These can jump pretty accurately, too!

Since their venom is more on the strong side (very painful since the three Vanillotoxins within the venom target the same neuronal receptor that capsaicin does (the alkaloid from hot chili peppers , also known as TRPV1 which causes the burning sensation)) and can cause systemic reactions like vomitting, sweating, lightheadedness and muscle-spasms for a couple days. However, most bite victims state that aside the pain of the extremity the bite happened on, all symptoms were gone by the next day.

From my own experience I will say that bites are very unlikely to happen – responsible care of the animal provided! Have a catchcup ready at all times in case of an escape – they're lightning-fast if they want to. Other than that, do not prod them with anything unless absolutely necessary (rehousing i.e.) as they will usually go into defense-mode or teleport away. Rehousing should be done in an area in which the spider can't escape from you into spots where it'll be problematic to retrieve them – it has proven useful to have a couple towels on the ground for the animal to hide underneath in case they take a run. A catchcup with a small hole fitting for a soft straw has proven the best helper for me towards that end.


Bottom line
Extremely beautiful and fast, pretty defensive and very reclusive generally equals not a good starting choice into the hobby in my opinion. For all others: Psalmopoeus irminia is the best looking of the genus and they're easy to raise and keep (some experience with arboreal tarantula care and common sense provided) and many suggest them as the 2nd step towards a Poecilotheria spp., myself included. There's a reason why those of us keeping them call it a real treat if they show up – because we're all deprived of their appearance as they prefer to come out when they aren't being watched. Aside that – awesome genus, awesome species and one of my personal recommendations for any collection!


Sidenote:
In terms of keeping, the above can be applied to every other Psalmopeus spp., too. The setup of their enclosures is exactly the same and their behavior varies only to some degree, with P. Langenbucheri being the dwarf of the genus with max. 4“.


There, I did it. This species is very common and cheap to come by, yet many ask about them despite the fact that there's already tons of info on the net about them – including on here. Perhaps this (admittedly biased) view helps some people decide nevertheless.


Now you want picture, right? Here's some of my girls..."Firali" (the mean one) and "Phaedra" (the lady-like one)...

AF "Phaedra"




Enclosure her "majesty" resides in (40cmX30cmX30cm - HxWxD):


The meanie "Firali" as sling


...and adult with the complimentary attitude...*sigh* :p Her way of greeting me upon opening the enclosure.


Here's a short vid from the last time I recorded "Phaedra" after her molt August 2014




Relevant references:

Psalmopoeus irminia Saager, 1994
Last updated: 2014-11-19

Distribution: Venezuela

Taxonomic references
Psalmopoeus irminiaSaager, 1994: 59, f. 2-5, 6A, 7-11 (Dmf).
Psalmopoeus irminiaPeters, 2000b: 90, f. 258-259 (mf).
Psalmopoeus irminiaPeters, 2003: 275, f. 1101, 1103-1104 (mf).
Psalmopoeus irminiaSchmidt, 2003l: 204, f. 600-602 (mf).
Psalmopoeus irminiaSchmidt, Bullmer & Thierer-Lutz, 2006: 8, f. 11, 13 (mf).
Psalmopoeus irminiaMendoza, 2014b: 734, f. 17 (m).

References

Mendoza M., J. I. (2014b). Psalmopoeus victori, the first arboreal theraphosid spider described for Mexico (Araneae: Theraphosidae: Aviculariinae). Revista Mexicana de Biodiversidad85: 728-735. doi:10.7550/rmb.44597 -- Show included taxa

Peters, H.-J. (2000b). Tarantulas of the world: Kleiner Atlas der Vogelspinnen - Band 2. Published by the author, 162 pp. -- Show included taxa

Peters, H.-J. (2003). Tarantulas of the World: Amerika's Vogelspinnen. Published by the author, Wegberg, Germany, 328 pp. -- Show included taxa

Saager, F. (1994). Psalmopoeus irminia sp. n., Beschreibung einer neuen Aviculariinae (Theraphosidae, Aviculariinae, genus Psalmopoeus) inclusive einem Vergleich mit Psalmopoeus cambridgei. Arthropoda2: 59-71. -- Show included taxa

Schmidt, G. (2003l). Die Vogelspinnen: Eine weltweite Übersicht. Neue Brehm-Bücherei, Hohenwarsleben, 383 pp. -- Show included taxa

Schmidt, G., Bullmer, M. & Thierer-Lutz, M. (2006). Eine neue Psalmopoeus-Art aus Venezuela, Psalmopoeus langenbucheri sp. n. (Araneae: Theraphosidae: Aviculariinae). Tarantulas of the World121/122: 3-17. -- Show included taxa
Very informative. Beautiful pictures as well.
 

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Unfortunately, OP no longer visits Arachnoboards :( which sucks, because he has a wealth of knowledge.
Good thing I returned then, correct? :D

Thank you everyone for the comments. Much appreciated.

And yes, I'd be up to do another one of these posts.
 
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