A. Avic fell while molting

[Chad2008]

My a avic only had a half hamic web done when she started molting at some point last night. She is laying upside down on the ground shes not dead as of yet. But she is upside down and her legs seem mangled. I had to leave for work so i cant post pics or do anything with her until i go to lunch in a few hours.

just need some advice here. I couldnt find anything about an avic falling while molting or find anything about an avic being upside down on the ground with mangled looking legs after a molt. Its important to note she is a dark almost black blue now.

Thanks for any kind of help i can get. The only thing i could find was someone did move their avic becuase it looked like it would fall and everyone said not to so i decided to see what would happen.

---------- Post added 12-09-2014 at 08:29 AM ----------

Also the old exo is still in the web so it looks likes she just fell when she finally finished molting.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

I have tons of arboreal tarantulas and they always web themselves in completely. I've never heard of this occuring and if it was a big fall, your avicularia will probably be dead by the time you get home. :/ How big is the specimen?

 

[Chad2008]

Shes about 2 to 2 1/2 inches she was a resscue from an pet smart so shes been a little odd since i got her about a month ago or so. She was working on a cone when she began molting.
Yea i assume she wont be coming back from this one but needed to see what everyone esle thought. Was thinking at this point making an icu and seeing what happens is the best option

she is completely out of her old exo though btw so shes just laying on the ground mangled looking not sure if avics just look a little manlged after molt or not idk

 

[LadyofSpiders]

I had a P. striata sling do this. It had awful bleeding and a busted abdomen. I waited a couple days just keeping it hydrated until it hardened and then glued it's abdomen together. It lived for awhile but ended up dying later of more molt complications.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

When tarantulas are freshly molted, their vital organs are soft and very vulnerable to everything.

 

[Chad2008]

Yea that is why i am assuming the worst in this situation
I will update with pics when i got to lunch in about two hours
Trying to deceide if i should move her to an icu or leave her in her home
Any thoughts?

 

[fuzzyavics72]

You move her and she could start to bleed internally if, she isn't already. That's why you don't touch people who are hurt, but either way it's bad. Like I said before I bet she will be dead before you get home. I wouldn't worry too much. IF she happens to be alive when you do get home, I would giver her water. Goodluck dude and sorry about your avic.

Also WC tarantulas seem to have way too many issues. Next time I would buy an avicularia that isn't WC.

 

[Chad2008]

Oh yea i completely agree she was kind of a random decision one day i was at petsmart, had that i feel bad for you so ill save you instinct. All of my other t's are CB. Now im just stressed about my P rufilata molting wrong cause shes coming up on one quickly ._. shes much bigger at about 4 inches right now maybe even 4.5 so not as worried about her.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

My four inch versicolor molted sideways and I thought she was going to get stuck and not a thing. I hear ya about the WC thing. I do buy wc, since I get them at my lps for nothing.

---------- Post added 12-09-2014 at 11:10 AM ----------

Is it a male rufilata?

 

[Chad2008]

Shes been identified to be a female a few times on here but she needs to molt to be 1000% sure.

---------- Post added 12-09-2014 at 12:08 PM ----------

Well it seems she is fine internals and abdomen wise her legs are just very mangled right now. It seems like they havent completely hardened and filled out so im still hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

 

[Neoza]

Shes been identified to be a female a few times on here but she needs to molt to be 1000% sure.

---------- Post added 12-09-2014 at 12:08 PM ----------

Well it seems she is fine internals and abdomen wise her legs are just very mangled right now. It seems like they havent completely hardened and filled out so im still hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

can you post a picture?

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I have tons of arboreal tarantulas and they always web themselves in completely. I've never heard of this occuring and if it was a big fall, your avicularia will probably be dead by the time you get home. :/ How big is the specimen?

My A versi female fell off her tube web after molting, I put it in ICU but it never recovered. Sad loss , I never got a new one since. Too depressing to watch buy another avic I might expand my OW ts instead. She was very beat up, died from this.:cry::cry::cry:

My A avic is webbing near the ground with thick tube-web she is a lot smarter. Smarter ts often survive molting better. She is in Pre-molt and very fat ready for molt.
Too broke right now to buy another A versi, it was my favorite T back then. She grew very fast also.

 

[Chad2008]

My four inch versicolor molted sideways and I thought she was going to get stuck and not a thing. I hear ya about the WC thing. I do buy wc, since I get them at my lps for nothing.

---------- Post added 12-09-2014 at 11:10 AM ----------

Is it a male rufilata?

Fuzzy clear some of your inbox wont let me respond.


I will try to get a pic later its honestly really depressing and trying to not think about it atm

 

[CEC]

This happen to a friend of mine, I just happened to be over to witness it, obviously pretty rare, since non of my Avics have done this. I have seen pictures on FB of the same and all survived the molt. Just some reassurance.

http://www.tarantulasus.com/showthread.php/7015-Web-less-Avic-metallica-molt

 

[ARACHNO-SMACK48]

Do not throw away or bury or flush the t until you are absolutely 100% sure it is dead or it starts to smell. The T could very well make it. Also don't poke at him/ her.

 

[Chad2008]

This happen to a friend of mine, I just happened to be over to witness it, obviously pretty rare, since non of my Avics have done this. I have seen pictures on FB of the same and all survived the molt. Just some reassurance.

http://www.tarantulasus.com/showthread.php/7015-Web-less-Avic-metallica-molt

thank you very much and also you arachno-smack
shes been moving around some so im confident but whatever happens happens!

thanks for everyones help ill let yall know what happens

 

[z32upgrader]

thank you very much and also you arachno-smack
shes been moving around some so im confident but whatever happens happens!

thanks for everyones help ill let yall know what happens

These kinds of things happen more often than most think!
I was caring for someone else's big female versicolor and she molted in a precarious place so I watched the whole thing. She did end up pushing herself off the molt mat as she was pumping away at getting the molt off. I first tried tilting the enclosure to prevent that but it didn't work. She ended up in the dirt a few inches below with her back legs still in the molt. I very carefully grabbed the molt and opened it up and rotated it so the leg holes lined up with her new legs and they came right out. She was still laying on her face against the side of the enclosure in a very awkward position. I managed to get her rolled over onto her feet by gently and carefully tilting the enclosure again. She did just fine and suffered no injuries.
This was her about an hour after her incident.
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[Ultum4Spiderz]

These kinds of things happen more often than most think!
I was caring for someone else's big female versicolor and she molted in a precarious place so I watched the whole thing. She did end up pushing herself off the molt mat as she was pumping away at getting the molt off. I first tried tilting the enclosure to prevent that but t work. She ended up in the dirt a few inches below with her back legs still in the molt. I very carefully grabbed the molt and opened it up and rotated it so the leg holes lined up with her new Goober legs and they came right out. She was still laying on her face against the side of the enclosure in a very awkward position. I managed to get her rolled over onto her feet by gently and carefully tilting the enclosure again. She did just fine and suffered no injuries.
This was her about an hour after her incident.
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+1 must not be rare if my only A versi did this.....Maybe my T was handicapped.
Altleast yours lived mine died after she fell off her web, I tried ICU also.