A. Avic breeding

[TheWidowsPeak]

ok I will be breeding my Avic avic this week sometime and was wondeing...
1 can I just leave them together?
2 about how long untill she lays the eggs?
3 how long is the incubaion period?
4 are they known to be egg eaters?
thats it please help if you can

 

[greensleeves]

I seem to remember reading that avics are some of the best moms as far as raising eggs without munching them, but I'm sure the more experienced keepers can shed more light on this.

Best of luck, and may you have lots of cute little booted babies!

Greensleeves

 

[SpiderTwin]

I can help answer 3 of the 4. #2 I can't help you with since I bought my female already gravid.

#1- A. avics can be kept communily, you should be able to keep them together and give them a better chance of mating.

#3- The incubation period is around 60 days.

#4- Avics are known to be good mothers, i left the egg sack with the mother and she did great. She barely even put the egg sack down the whole time.


Hope this helps ya.

 

[Mendi]

I left my mine together close to 2 months, they were quite nice to each other. But my female molted so other than that, I have no answers. I would think though that they are good moms and have heard that if they don't have huge numbers of little ones.

 

[RugbyDave]

Hey man

here's a snippet of some of my latest Avic breeding info:

(name, when bred, when eggsac dropped, when eggsac pulled):

A.avicularia 6.6.03 7.4.03 (8.16.03?)
A.avicularia 1.14.03 2.20.03 4.3.03
A.geroldi 11.04.02 12.08.03 1.16.03
A.versicolor 10.15.02 11.30.02(!) 1.08.02

i've got more, but that should give you the general idea. I've never let any live together, so from EXPERIENCE, i'm not sure. But i do know people let theirs cohabitate and such. it's really personal choice. Avics are usually quick to get down to business, in my experience... and they're really good mothers; i haven't lost one to an avic yet (but thats not to say it can't happen...). I pretty much always leave mine with the mother. You can't go wrong breeding an avic

good luck!
peace
dave

 

[Garrick]

I've bred 'em a handful of times, and for 3 or 4 pairings I kept notes. There's pics of them "hatching", too.

To make a long story short, make sure the male is loaded, put him in there, wait a couple weeks, take him out. I've had some cohabit for over a month (the girl made her sac with him in there) with no issues. However, I recently had a CB female eat a WC male after a week and a half. She got gravid and I'm awaiting the eggs, but still. . . . That's the only male I've lost out of. . . ummmm. . .7 pairings.

You can find more info on the ones where I kept track of things at:

http://tarantulas.differentdawn.com/avic/mate.html

-Garrick

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[TheWidowsPeak]

thanks alot man... that is exactly what I was looking for. I'm too lazy to take notes and such but hey I may do it just to help out the cause.

 

[Garrick]

One thing about my site. . . you don't really have to take them out and make an incubator with that species. I like to do that after about 30 days to see if the the babies are viable, but if your vivarium is clean (no mites, fungus, etc.), you could just leave 'em. I get curious and want to make sure eggs are coming along sometimes, then I'm afraid to put the sack back with the mother after opening them. It seems unsterile to me, so, if I open it, I make a little tupperware incubator for the last couple weeks. With A. avic, I don't bother rotating it or anything after opening it because by the time I get the balls to have a look, the bugs can walk a little bit. I've never heard of A. avic eating its own eggs. I've left 'em until "hatching" with both A. avics and P. murinus and the moms never seemed to mind (I've never seen them feed their babies as some have reported, though).

I have had Ephebopus uatuman eat its eggs. They're from the same subfamily as A. avic, but she did it two days after making her sack. There must've been something wrong with them (the male was a kook. That much I do know. Maybe she didn't want to have his kids).


-Garrick

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[Lopez]

I've never bred Avicularia, but can offer my own "experiences" with gravid ones.
Local pet shop had a WC 3.5" female come in, which he sold in under a week. Turns out she was gravid, and produced a sac after about a fortnight after being sold.
After just over 2 months of being left with the mother they hatched, the babies lived communally for several weeks with no problems. Then I bought on of 'em Fast growers!

 

[Nixy]

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johnnyjohnjon. I put a male with both of our female A. avics.
One male is still alive and well with his respected female.
The other died. But not by attack. He just wound down and stopped moving one day. She never touched him. But then again our T's are very well fed.
That one is now getting rather large in the abdmomin. So we can Hope the male did his stuff before old age cought him.
I'll pull the dates and post them for you if it helps any.

Good luck.

 

[RugbyDave]

i wonder.....

At any rate, i haven't ever co-habitated my avics... they're usually amazingly good at getting the job done and beating a hasty retreat (and i mean hasty!!)

Though many many people let their avics cohabitate with good success.

either way, its a good T to start breeding with!

peace
dave

 

[phoenixxavierre]

I've left my male and female avics together and I've bred them in four tanks total. I've never had a problem with them cannabilizing.

I've had the times vary between breeding to eggsac from a month to two months. I've also had the hatching times vary from a month to two months.

I've never had an avic eat an eggsac, but then I've only bred Avicularia avicularia twice. The first time the mother was GREAT. Hung out with the kids, etc. Eventually the babies ended up all over my walls and ceiling, but that's another story! lol!

Hope this little addition helps some.

 

[Mister Internet]

Any further discussion concerning the spat that developed in this thread (if you didn't see it, don't sweat it, and if you're involved, you know who you are) will be deleted and warnings distributed... this crap is not allowed in the public forums. Keeping this kind of thing private is a VERY good idea, for your future reference.

Thanks, we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread...

 

[RugbyDave]

Hey johnnyjohnjohn,
in case youre wondering what the avic cage will look like after she drops, here's a thread (with some pics i took) that I posted a couple weeks ago.

http://www.arachnopets.com/arachnoboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11328&highlight=avic+eggsac

<understood>

here's some pics of the infamous eggsacs and avics I have... this avic is the first and only T i've bred since i joined the list.

The first "arachnopets" breeding project of mine, if you will! T

he title's fitting since these bad boys will be sponsoring an arachnoquickie by yours truly (and JCohen of course!!)

good luck J! They're a blast to watch breed! all legs and pink-and-black blurs!

peace
dave