2 spider ID's please

[RobAtkinson]

Hi guys/girls. I'm still no spider expert so i just wanted 2 ID's. I think the first one is Araneus Quadratus. Not sure about the second, possibly Zygiella x-notata? Apologies for the big photos

 

[cacoseraph]

the second pic is real blurry but if i am interpreting it right it looks like it could be an Uloboridae spider. Ulo's are neat, cuz they don't use venom to secure their prey

 

[ZergFront]

the second pic is real blurry but if i am interpreting it right it looks like it could be an Uloboridae spider. Ulo's are neat, cuz they don't use venom to secure their prey

Really? I've seen several of these little guys. No wonder they won't take anything a little bigger in their webs.

 

[RobAtkinson]

Well I've just had a look in the Collins field guide and it looks very similar to the Missing Sector Spider.