@Ungoliant I disagree. I hate to break out anecdotal evidence in these cases but I’ve raised a bunch of hesperus and live where there’s lots of geos. I think this is hesperus because of the pattern and the white. Young geos tend to not have this pattern and are usually darker.
I actually have like a dozen in this stage. I just compared them. The white matches up exactly. Also, they are in Arizona which makes geo a bit less likely.
@NYAN I've seen brown widows that look similar. (We have L. mactans and L. geometricus here, but the brown widows seem to have displaced the black widows, as now I only find brown widows.)
@NYANThe link I posted has some great illustrations. (To be fair, both species are quite variable in coloring and patterns, and I would not 100% call it from this image.)
@Ungoliant You’re absolutely right, however this is hesperus in my opinion. It looks identical to all of the individuals I’ve reared in every way. I think at this stage a geo would be darker and have a different pattern. I reckon this one is about half an inch legspan maybe @CritterKeeper21?
Lastly, because they are in Arizona I think it adds to the likelihood that this is hesperus as that seems to be the main species there.
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