Sold as Brachypelma albiceps
mrben

Sold as Brachypelma albiceps

Sold as a Brachypelma Albiceps. Moulted recently but retained a high level of red tones in her carapace. I am thinking I have a Tlitocatl Kahlenbergi, but the maybe the red tone is too dark and not rusty enough. Maybe not dark enough to be a Sericopelma Angustum. What do you all think?
Definitely not Albiceps.
To know for sure if it is a Kahlenbergi, I hope it is a female, the spermatheca will tell you what it is.
 
Definitely not Albiceps.
To know for sure if it is a Kahlenbergi, I hope it is a female, the spermatheca will tell you what it is.
Definitely not Albiceps.
To know for sure if it is a Kahlenbergi, I hope it is a female, the spermatheca will tell you what it is.

Here is a microscope shot I took of her spermatheca. Struggling to find an image to compare to on my phone.
 
Hi guys, lets clear things up a lil bit.

So, B. albiceps is still in Brachypelma genus, what you have is definitely from Tliltocatl genus.

Now, about all these red rumps individuals in pet trade, only spermathecae is not enough nor reliable to confirm the species. That is because red rumpers in the hobby are a mess, with a high possibility that hybrids have already been "made".

My advice to you is keep it a Tliltocatl sp. and avoid to breed with another "supposed to be pure, T. kahlenbergi.

Cheers. :)
 
Hi guys, lets clear things up a lil bit.

So, B. albiceps is still in Brachypelma genus, what you have is definitely from Tliltocatl genus.

Now, about all these red rumps individuals in pet trade, only spermathecae is not enough nor reliable to confirm the species. That is because red rumpers in the hobby are a mess, with a high possibility that hybrids have already been "made".

My advice to you is keep it a Tliltocatl sp. and avoid to breed with another "supposed to be pure, T. kahlenbergi.

Cheers. :)
I would normally heed this advice, but the fact that mine was a wild caught juvie female, I'm quite confident in keeping it called T. Kahlenbergi. I just posted that a while back to see if people can compare it with their own red-rumps and needed a bit of clarity in mind as I got into a string of bad deals at the time.
 
Hi guys, lets clear things up a lil bit.

So, B. albiceps is still in Brachypelma genus, what you have is definitely from Tliltocatl genus.

Now, about all these red rumps individuals in pet trade, only spermathecae is not enough nor reliable to confirm the species. That is because red rumpers in the hobby are a mess, with a high possibility that hybrids have already been "made".

My advice to you is keep it a Tliltocatl sp. and avoid to breed with another "supposed to be pure, T. kahlenbergi.

Cheers. :)
OK but do you have any input on the photo of the specimen?
 
I would normally heed this advice, but the fact that mine was a wild caught juvie female, I'm quite confident in keeping it called T. Kahlenbergi. I just posted that a while back to see if people can compare it with their own red-rumps and needed a bit of clarity in mind as I got into a string of bad deals at the time.
I know what you mean and I didnt know that you have a wc individual, sorry for didnt ask you first.

However, imo, when it comes to individuals that we already have in pet trade, even the pictures of spermathecae of a wc ones arent reliable, and thats because we dont know for sure if there are hybrids in the hobby and, if we do have hybrids indeed, how their morphology works.

I totally understand your point but I think it is worth it only if we had wc specimens too.
 

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