I have noticed that this particular hybird has gotten out of control as i have seen several slings at pet store here in Michigan (Preuss Pets in Lansing)! Personaly I think hybirdnizing is terrible as it screws with the whole genus and could even destroy it. Hybirds are usally dull and I see now reason to make them. If you do happen to have some or create some then do not sell them or breed them with other sp. in that genus.
why are people doing this?!
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I hope you don't own any cats or dogs then... lolIf nature didn't create it. Then i wont want it.That's my view
Also, hybridizing.. I'd say its fine as long as people don't sell or transfer ownership of any of the offspring, but since that is so unlikely it just shouldn't be done.
TarantulaFanBoy
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Nope i dont own any cats or Dogs
What part of nature did your computer come from?If nature didn't create it. Then i wont want it.
TarantulaFanBoy
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Ok since you want to be a Smart ass. I was referring to Animals. Tarantulas in particular.What part of nature did your computer come from?
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Ok - let's stir the pot here.
I believe it was back in the 1980's that Ceratogyrus species were exported out of South Africa legally, since then there has been a ban, so pretty much NO new blood has come into the lines. (Shouldn't cause a problem- there were THOUSANDS exported).
But my point would be this-
compare a true wild caught C. brachycephalus to the "hobby" form.
Here's a picture of one straight out of the wild
Now compare to any number of those that are in the hobby in the USA/Europe:
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1307292&postcount=12
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1240666&postcount=975
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1464366&postcount=11
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1412951&postcount=159
Now, I'm NOT picking on anyone who owns one of these - you use what you have available to you. What I'm pointing out is that there are some obvious "muddied" genetics in the hobby form. We simply do not get any "brachycephalus" that resemble the hobby form occurring naturally in southern Africa.
My opinion - the true C. brachycephalus was bred with C. darlingi/bechuanicus or another similar species which led to it being much different than the original, while still being able to bear fertile offspring.
I do not think I'm wrong about this, which leads me to believe cross breeding any Theraphosid is traversing a very slippery slope.
See what has happened after only 25 years of "hobby" breeding!!!
EDIT:
Not picking on the owner - but if you check one of the posts, it states that the tarantula is 5.5" legspan. C. brachycephalus is the "dwarf" of the Ceratogyrus genus, maxing out at 10cm legspan usually. C. marshalli and darlingi are quite large in comparison.
I believe it was back in the 1980's that Ceratogyrus species were exported out of South Africa legally, since then there has been a ban, so pretty much NO new blood has come into the lines. (Shouldn't cause a problem- there were THOUSANDS exported).
But my point would be this-
compare a true wild caught C. brachycephalus to the "hobby" form.
Here's a picture of one straight out of the wild
Now compare to any number of those that are in the hobby in the USA/Europe:
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1307292&postcount=12
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1240666&postcount=975
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1464366&postcount=11
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showpost.php?p=1412951&postcount=159
Now, I'm NOT picking on anyone who owns one of these - you use what you have available to you. What I'm pointing out is that there are some obvious "muddied" genetics in the hobby form. We simply do not get any "brachycephalus" that resemble the hobby form occurring naturally in southern Africa.
My opinion - the true C. brachycephalus was bred with C. darlingi/bechuanicus or another similar species which led to it being much different than the original, while still being able to bear fertile offspring.
I do not think I'm wrong about this, which leads me to believe cross breeding any Theraphosid is traversing a very slippery slope.
See what has happened after only 25 years of "hobby" breeding!!!
EDIT:
Not picking on the owner - but if you check one of the posts, it states that the tarantula is 5.5" legspan. C. brachycephalus is the "dwarf" of the Ceratogyrus genus, maxing out at 10cm legspan usually. C. marshalli and darlingi are quite large in comparison.
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