What is the deal with Pampho's and Phormic's

[Nightstalker47]

It's okay, Phormics and Pamphos will just about eat all their other tarantula opponents (which is true, since they're LARGE NW terrestrials).

Kind of irrelevant to the conversation though? Its not like were pitting them against each other for a fight to the death.

Besides, your forgetting the biggest and baddest of them all...Theraphosa. None of the others come close in terms of sheer size.

Not a big fan of the "my tarantula can eat yours" banter though.

 

[antinous]

Kind of irrelevant to the conversation though? Its not like were pitting them against each other for a fight to the death.

Besides, your forgetting the biggest and baddest of them all...Theraphosa. None of the others come close in terms of sheer size.

Not a big fan of the "my tarantula can eat yours" banter though.

True, I was just kidding around with that part, didn’t want to make it a conversation topic or anything, just a one liner to get some laughs.

I’d love to get some Theraphosa, especially apophysis, never had any so I’m curious to see the growth rate compared to Pamphos

 

[FrDoc]

Tom Moran has a very well done overview of the Phormictopus genus on YT that includes species descriptions that may shine some light on your quest @Luka98.

 

[Venom1080]

That's strange, I don't think any of the tarantulas I posted were brown?



Currently don't have any, but plan on getting some soon, they'll be added to my army list

Give a few years.

@Luka98 they're probably all out now.. I don't own many pet holes or ghosts.

 

[PanzoN88]

Phormictopus sp are stunning (I have a cancerides and an atrichromatus) and Pamphobeteus sp are stunning (I have two platyomma slings), but Phormictopus sp are far superior in every way.

 

[Luka98]

but Phormictopus sp are far superior in every way

Please do tell, i am very curious about both genera

 

[Dennis Nedry]

Phormictopus = Pamphobeteus > Every other tarantula

You lot can keep your big brown Terrestrials. I'll stick to genera with class..

Pfft. You guys are totally ignoring the best tarantulas

 

[lostbrane]

Just when I think I’m going to cool down in terms of wanting another species. I’m on board with Pamphos now (plan to get one next) but then this thread inspired me to check out the Phormictopus gallery. *sigh*

Time to add another couple to to the wish list...

 

[Luka98]

Ok since you guys derailed my thread enough already i'll just post my favorite tarantula from my collection
My G Rosea, snagged this picture quickly before she bolted (you know how they are)

 

[LV-426]

 

[lostbrane]

Ok since you guys derailed my thread enough already i'll just post my favorite tarantula from my collection
My G Rosea, snagged this picture quickly before she bolted (you know how they are)
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It took me about 15 minutes to figure out what that photo was all about

 

[LV-426]

Poor man Pampho eh..I have experience with both. Phormictopus wins in the attitude category, and both look awesome IMO. I got my 2 Phormictopus sp. (cancerides and auratus) and Pampho several years ago. Phormictopus both were around 2 1/2-3in while the Pampho was a sling. I went on a week vacation in July of this year, and upon returning I found the Pampho dead unfortunately . Both Phormictopus are still alive and well. I give the edge to Phormictopus: size, attitude, color variations, tough as nails.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I don't own many pet holes or ghosts.

Heretic! The highest point of a dedicated arachnid keeper is to see nothing more than a burrow among a 'no man's land' of substrate! The burrows are able to 'talk'... they tell us stories

 

[antinous]

Poor man Pampho eh..I have experience with both. Phormictopus wins in the attitude category, and both look awesome IMO. I got my 2 Phormictopus sp. (cancerides and auratus) and Pampho several years ago. Phormictopus both were around 2 1/2-3in while the Pampho was a sling. I went on a week vacation in July of this year, and upon returning I found the Pampho dead unfortunately . Both Phormictopus are still alive and well. I give the edge to Phormictopus: size, attitude, color variations, tough as nails.

I'd have to disagree, I still give the edge to Phormics, but Pamphos grow faster than Phormics (out of the 12 or so species of Pamphos I've kept and the 6-7 species of Phormics I've kept) and Phormics tend to slow down once they hit 4-5". Phormics are hardier and cheaper so I give the edge as them. They have a large range of colors, just like Pamphos, and they usually have a more defensive attitude (which is a plus for me) but the feeding response for both are equal.

 

[antinous]

Poor man Pampho eh..I have experience with both. Phormictopus wins in the attitude category, and both look awesome IMO. I got my 2 Phormictopus sp. (cancerides and auratus) and Pampho several years ago. Phormictopus both were around 2 1/2-3in while the Pampho was a sling. I went on a week vacation in July of this year, and upon returning I found the Pampho dead unfortunately . Both Phormictopus are still alive and well. I give the edge to Phormictopus: size, attitude, color variations, tough as nails.

I'd have to disagree, I still give the edge to Phormics, but Pamphos grow faster than Phormics (out of the 12 or so species of Pamphos I've kept and the 6-7 species of Phormics I've kept) and Phormics tend to slow down once they hit 4-5". Phormics are hardier and cheaper so I give the edge as them. They have a large range of colors, just like Pamphos, and they usually have a more defensive attitude (which is a plus for me) but the feeding response for both are equal.

 

[Luka98]

You guys are killing me, i'm going to end up with a Phormictopus auratus or atrichomatus by the end of this thread! Oh and btw VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION is there any sexual dimorphism like with pampho's or are the males and the females the same color in the phormictopus genus? I see that the p. atrichomatus is mighty purple (at least in the breeders picture) with black accents, is that what i'm ending up with no matter the sex? (Needles to say i really want a purple spider)

 

[antinous]

You guys are killing me, i'm going to end up with a Phormictopus auratus or atrichomatus by the end of this thread! Oh and btw VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION is there any sexual dimorphism like with pampho's or are the males and the females the same color in the phormictopus genus? I see that the p. atrichomatus is mighty purple (at least in the breeders picture) with black accents, is that what i'm ending up with no matter the sex? (Needles to say i really want a purple spider)

Females will have more colors than the Pampho genus in general (there are exceptions), the males will be brighter than the females though obviously. If you want purple, I’d go with Phormictopus sp. purple, violet or Dominican purple (if going the Phormic route).

 

[Luka98]

Females will have more colors than the Pampho genus in general (there are exceptions), the males will be brighter than the females though obviously. If you want purple, I’d go with Phormictopus sp. purple, violet or Dominican purple (if going the Phormic route).

I have 3 options at the moment which are atrichomatus, auratus and cancerides. Now i know how muddy cancerides is and the seller didn't even provide a pic so i don't want to gamble too much. It's either the atrichomatus or auratus. But maybe my local sellers have some i'll have to check but i doubt it, their stock is pretty basic.

 

[antinous]

I have 3 options at the moment which are atrichomatus, auratus and cancerides. Now i know how muddy cancerides is and the seller didn't even provide a pic so i don't want to gamble too much. It's either the atrichomatus or auratus. But maybe my local sellers have some i'll have to check but i doubt it, their stock is pretty basic.

Even if you pick any of those, you won’t go wrong.

 

[Theneil]

Ok since you guys derailed my thread enough already i'll just post my favorite tarantula from my collection
My G Rosea, snagged this picture quickly before she bolted (you know how they are)
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Whoa. We gotta work on that enclosure a bit buddy. You need to add some substrate! No more than 1.5 times the legspan from the lid to the top of the sub. Coco fiber or topsoil are fine. you should add a water dish as well.

And a hide, and.........