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Velvet ants, stick

Discussion in 'Insects, Other Invertebrates & Arthropods' started by Galapoheros, Jul 12, 2019 at 4:13 AM.

  1. Galapoheros

    Galapoheros ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    Thought I would post a few things from east Texas I found when I was over there.
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  2. Aquarimax

    Aquarimax Arachnoangel Active Member

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    Beautiful!! The velvet ants are gorgeous...I found some last year but no luck collecting. Peter at BICSsent me some though. :) I didn’t know that native phasmids got that massive!
     
  3. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    Gorgeous! I had no idea the US had native stick insects!
     
  4. pannaking22

    pannaking22 Arachnoemperor Active Member

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    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

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  6. Smokehound714

    Smokehound714 Arachnoking Active Member

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    nice megaphasma!

    the velvet ants are two different species

    the one with all red and only black on the abdomen tip is D. bioculata, the other one is D. occidentalis- cowkiller
     
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  7. pannaking22

    pannaking22 Arachnoemperor Active Member

    I believe there are rules about species crossing state lines and being moved from their native ranges, so it ends up being a bit of a wash, though there are native phasmids in most states. I'd have to look through the pics on BugGuide, but they may include a couple non-native species in there as well.
     
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  8. Arthroverts

    Arthroverts Arachnobaron Active Member

    @Andrea82, people like the exotic species for their colors and behaviors (most US natives are a drab brown or green), their surprising availability (US native species are difficult to find in the wild to the untrained eye, and are almost never offered for sale, while species like E. tiaratum can be found at reptile shows and online with surprising regularity), and by the fact that once they are in the US, APHIS stops looking for them it seems (please, I know APHIS does still keep an eye out and that because their here doesn't mean it's "legal" to keep them, so let's not have another drawn out discussion on their legality). At least that is what I've seen.

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    Arthroverts
     
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  9. Gogyeng

    Gogyeng Arachnoknight Active Member

    Amazing velvet ants ! Did you find these two females in the same spot?
     
  10. Galapoheros

    Galapoheros ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    Yeah I found them about 10' apart. If you're interested in where, in an area between Navasota and Hempstead Texas. Sometimes the megaphasma are pea-green like this one and in other areas they are bright green, the bright green ones look bigger to me just because of the color. I think I've seen some brown ones too, I guess it depends on the local veg, what works better.

    Here's one I found in the Austin Tx area, a male I think, same sps?
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  11. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    Cowkiller... Is that a cute common name, or referring to the severity of a bite? :eek:
     
  12. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    Edit: never mind, googled it. It's not a cute common name :bag:
     
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  13. Mirandarachnid

    Mirandarachnid Arachnobaron Active Member

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    Nope. I mean, obviously it won't actually kill a cow, but it will sure as hell teach you to shake out your boots before you put them on :hilarious:

    Crazy cute though, I love keeping them when I come across them.
     
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  14. Because most people are only able to find one or two small sticklike species and it's actually a lot easier to find someone selling or giving away Extatosoma, Eurycantha, Heteropteryx, Phyllium etc. than someone who'll ship you another tiny sticklike phasmid from another part of the country.

    This question is rather like asking why anyone would keep tarantulas when there are plenty of native spiders in any given region. Not that smaller spiders aren't cool, but tarantulas have an obvious appeal radically different from anything I could find in the woods here.
     
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  15. pannaking22

    pannaking22 Arachnoemperor Active Member

    Yeah I think it's the same species. Female too. Males have weird looking claspers - https://bugguide.net/node/view/1687909/bgimage
     
  16. Jim Cricket

    Jim Cricket Arachnopeon

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  17. Jlaw154

    Jlaw154 Arachnopeon

    Those are some great looking velvet ants and stick bugs
     
  18. mantisfan101

    mantisfan101 Arachnobaron Active Member

    Dang the megaphasma took me by surprise!!!