Tarantulas on TV

Miss Bianca

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Tarantula shows on TV this wknd..

There's numerous shows on the Guide for this wknd.......
(in NY anyway...)
..including Spidermania, and Tarantulas in Australia
+ others...
and one I'm watching right now.....



 
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Smitty78

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I recorded them both on the DVR and just got done watching them. I was quite disappointed. I am pretty sure you can learn more by reading noobie posts about rose hairs here on the boards. Especially coming from Rick West I expected a lot more.
 

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I agree... the Aussie one was good..
the Spidermania was oh so wack...
Yeah I agree. The Aussie one was pretty good, though I did think they over stated T venom a bit. Only thing I did like about the one with Rick West was when they were checking out the B. vagans in Florida.
 

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Yeah I agree. The Aussie one was pretty good, though I did think they over stated T venom a bit. Only thing I did like about the one with Rick West was when they were checking out the B. vagans in Florida.
Was it me or was every tarantula Rick West encountered "incredibly rare and never filmed before"?
 

Miss Bianca

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yeah..... everything was so rare and seldom collected or seen!...
:confused: and also "never photographed in the Wild..."..

that show gave me a feeling like it was filmed a decade ago...
which I know it wasn't...
and he used very amature-ish terminology... weird...
 

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that show gave me a feeling like it was filmed a decade ago...
which I know it wasn't...
Maybe not a decade ago, but with a relase date of April 2002, I bet most of the footage was filmed the year before, making it about 8 years old.

and he used very amature-ish terminology... weird...
Animal Planet air's there shows to poeple who are not tarantula enthusiast as well, and need to keep things simple for a broader audience. For a less "Produced" but more inforamitve show, check out this DVD by Andrew Smith

Later, Tom
 

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Was it me or was every tarantula Rick West encountered "incredibly rare and never filmed before"?
Lol, Yeah that is true.
Have you seen better film footage of wild C. cyaneopubescens & H. redelli? ? ( if thats what it evan was ) Its ben years since I've seen that show, and although its dated , I havent seen many other people posting video's from there natural range.

Later, Tom
 

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It didn't help that the host was so monotone he put me to sleep. I did enjoy seeing the t's though. I did like to see the GBB in its natural habitat.
 

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Knowing both specialists in those shows and how they were directed to certain folk, each with certain goals, they were both exceptional, nothing better is on the market now.

For purely technical information, I would strongly suggest sticking to published peer reviewed papers.

Being critical of those on camera in a show is a little harsh, the producers are always more to blame than the people in front of the camera (unless you're lucky enough to be Oprah), as they truly dictate how the show is edited and produced.

I would strongly suggest you critique those to blame, I know if both Rob or Rick had their way, the shows would have been MUCH different, in both cases.

Andrew Smith's latest release is fairly but reasonably technical and covers the history of the genus Brachypelma in Mexico, focusing on several species in particular. It too, is very well done, and although not with running footage but only images and Andrew himself doing the commentary, was exceptionally accurate in locality data and history of the original discoverer's amazing journeys.

The above three examples are among the best there is on DVD, I honestly feel each has incredible value to the hobby and I cannot honestly be critical of ANY of those. Some of the other tripe on TV about tarantulas however is another story, largely inaccurate data with self-harm induced characters like Chuck the blackwidow spider idiot etc doing their "thing".

Give me any of the first 3 ANY day of the week.

It's a little rough to hear everyone so critical of the best DVD works there are on tarantulas. Maybe I missed something.......it has been a while since I was here and looked around..........but I'd be giving credit where credit is due and hoping that companies like Discovery and Animal Planet and Andy Smith's own company continue to maintain high hopes theirs and other productions on tarantulas are considered worth it. If they read comments like this, they'd be wondering, where did they go wrong................
 

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well.... I enjoyed the shows.. simply because they were focusing on
tarantulas... I don't think they went wrong,
(besides little things like saying certain species are soooo rareeeeeee,
when they really aren't... unless they are rare in the wild ?? )..

but I'd hope they'd see it as what it is,
criticism that can help with improvement...
that'd be far fetch though I think...

I totally agree about the person being filmed isn't the one
that decides how the show really turns out... that's a definite fact.
 
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I have noticed my dvr hasn't recorded the show since that first air. I did enjoy the show and wanted to watch it again. Is it off the air or am I just missing it. I also agree with Bianca just said as well. I dont mean to pass judgment but the show could use some improvement.
 

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(besides little things like saying certain species are soooo rareeeeeee,
when they really aren't... unless they are rare in the wild ?? )..

I totally agree about the person being filmed isn't the one
that decides how the show really turns out... that's a definite fact.
Hi Bianca and everyone,
As I understand it, they are rare in the wild, which was the topic at the time as I recall. That said, comparing the hobby to images and behaviour seen in the wild is like comparing apples and oranges, completely different.

Some species do exceptionally well in captivity, I can cite a good example here. A few years back "Phlogius" sp. SARINA was established into the hobby as captive bred animals, they are now prolific in the Aussie hobby, yet they remain elusive with a TINY wild range in the wild.

There are other multiple examples of such things, many of the Poecilotheria are quite rare in the wild, or their ranges very poorly known or very small from what little we know (eg: P.subfusca and indeed many of the Brachypelma everyone thnks of as common, look to Andy's DVD for evidence of that). Yet these species often come up for sale in the trade, there's probably not one single person in the international hobby that could not at one stage or another, claim not to have had access to VERY rare animals in the wild.

All that said, I do understand the questions, hopefully through a little discussion things like this can become a little clearer :)

And BTW, many of the animals Rick captures on film are in fact filmed for the first time in the wild ;) Full respect to the man for bringing us those first time images (and all others who strive to do the same). To say they are not, or even suggest it, is a little rough and not true. When he makes that statement, it is true, I can assure you. Many years on since those were filmed, you must remember this, that spider was non-existant in the hobby when that was filmed, that is a fact, I was around to remember that one, so will some of the others, before this board was created by Scott and Debbie.

That said, Rudd (Buggin' with Rudd) had shown a new tarantula for the first time ever on film too, a new Theraphosa species, but that one seems to have slipped under everyones radar for some reason, nice animal too ;) I don't know if he actually knew at the time (or does now), but it was a new species regardless.

The Aussie T documentary showed about 7 new species for the very first time on film too, only the described one was mentioned, but ALL others on that show were undescribed species (with the sole exception of S.foelschei, which was not named for certain reasons.

All I would strongly suggest is when you take the time to be critical of these productions for DVD and television, that they are marketed to certain folk always, and I guarantee you it is usually not for the purist hobbyist who focuses hard on tarantulas, but your everyday Joe sitting back with a beer in one hand and a pack of potato chips in the other pointing and looking at the "pretty colours". If that dude is happy and won't flick halfway through to "Cops" or "Jerry Springer", than the production crew have done their jobs well and Animal Planet and Discovery chanells that everyone loves so much continue to get paid and proliferate and bring out more of the same.

Unfortunately, the docos everyone here would like to see are not money makers for the big companies that produce those shows, just a sad a pathetic truth and it sucks, but it's life. We're not the general population here, you all know that, how many of you have friends who won't even enter your homes anymore???? You're all wierd, accept it and move on and try to be less like those who don't visit anymore because you now keep spiders ;)

Cheers,
Steve
 

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there was that episode on The Show Monster Quest, on the history channel

it suposed to be the Giant spider episode and i Think It had rick West In south America Hunting for what they were saying was Ts big enough to take village pets,

the show comes on every wednesday, at around 9:00
 
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