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Sting itself to death?

Discussion in 'Scorpions' started by Bearo, Jan 21, 2005.

  1. Bearo

    Bearo Arachnobaron Old Timer

    in a swedish forum we are talking about if scorpions really kill themself..

    I have heard that if you put a scorpion in a ring of fire it will sting itself in the neck because it knows that it will never come out of it alive...

    is this true?
  2. errit

    errit Arachnolord Old Timer

    I also heard a guy in mexico say this, but i really think that it is a myth. The only animal that commits suicide on this planet is homo sapiens
  3. Fince

    Fince Arachnoknight Old Timer

    It's a legend but not true :)
  4. chulopiscinas

    chulopiscinas Arachnosquire Old Timer

    i think it,s a legend also
  5. Ythier

    Ythier Arachnoprince Old Timer

    with the heat some cuticle parts shrink, as tergites, and you can think the scorpion is stinging itself.
  6. RaZeDaHeLL666

    RaZeDaHeLL666 Arachnodemon Old Timer

    The scorpion probobly goes nuts and starts running around, making it seem as if it was stinging itself. That is a really stupid thing to say because its like saying.......if you put a human in a ring of fire, he will punch himself to death. LOL
  7. Wade

    Wade Arachnoking Old Timer

    Yes, the contortions the dying scorpion goes through makes it look like it's stinging itelf, but it's not deliberate.

    You can actually see it happen in the film "The Wild Bunch" from director Sam Peckinpah (OK, that spelling off for sure). During the opening credits there's a sequence of children doing this to some live scorpions. Rough to watch if you like scorpions!

  8. errit

    errit Arachnolord Old Timer

    That would be more likely
  9. Kugellager

    Kugellager ArachnoJester Arachnosupporter

  10. Longbord1

    Longbord1 Arachnoprince Old Timer

    i also read that putting alchohol on a scorpion will make it sting itself.

    this was in an isreali new paper
  11. Kaos

    Kaos Arachnolord

  12. NoS

    NoS Arachnoknight Old Timer

    Are you sure about that?
    I am not disputing you, but I am almost positive that I have heard of other animals that can and will kill themselves. Maybe not for the same reasons that a human would kill themselves but you know.
  13. fusion121

    fusion121 Arachnoking Old Timer

    Hi I think the myth derives from the fact that, scorpions are ectotherms and so are particulary susceptable to extremes of temperature. When exposed to heat (such as a ring of fire) their body chemistry goes hay wire, resulting in muscle spams, these spasm make it look very much like the scorpion is stinging itself, hence the origin of the myth. If you'd like to see this effect simply up your vivarium thermostats to observe identical behaviour :) .
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2005
  14. G. Carnell

    G. Carnell Arachnoemperor Old Timer

    Once my dad went on a Hunt when he was just a lad, they were chasing a huge stag for a while with a pack of 40 or so hounds, and when the stag was cornered on a cliff edge (small cliff!) overlooking a river, it threw itself into the river, rather than getting ripped to death by the dogs,
    the stag died of course,
    but it really shows you how evil hunting is :(
  15. skinheaddave

    skinheaddave SkorpionSkin Arachnosupporter

    Well, you've certainly come a long way in a short time.

  16. Ythier

    Ythier Arachnoprince Old Timer

  17. Kugellager

    Kugellager ArachnoJester Arachnosupporter

    :clap: :worship: :worship: :clap:

  18. errit

    errit Arachnolord Old Timer

    :} :D

    Well it would only be natural for only humans to commit suicide because we differentiate ourselves from animals, we can reflect on ourselves and others. conscience.
    I don't recall hearing from animals killing themselves, if it would be true than this is probably due to a higher goal, like sacrificing them for their offspring.
  19. Div1nE

    Div1nE Arachnoknight Old Timer

    1) i dont think scorpions have that kind of intelligence.

    2) wouldnt mother nature give the scorps a natural ability to resist their own venom?

    example: snake's venom wouldnt do much good for snakes if they couldnt eat the prey because they'd die from their own venom.

    get my drift?
  20. errit

    errit Arachnolord Old Timer

    You can drink snake venom and live, it is only deadly when injected, not when taken in orally.