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ready to breed?

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by ChaelP, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. Nightstalker47

    Nightstalker47 Arachnoprince Active Member

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    This seems most likely. But there are always exceptions, I have seen some unusually fast growth rates within my own specimens. Even from arid species.
    You can see the spermathecae on the first molt to the left if you zoom in. The spider is definitely female. And females can definitely outpace males, seen it with multiple species.
     
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  2. MetalMan2004

    MetalMan2004 Arachnobaron Active Member

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    Interesting, I’ve always heard it the other way around.
     
  3. Males typically out grow females, I believe he meant it isn't unheard of that a female may outpace a male.
     
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  4. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    Sure, we all have.....but nothing even close to an adult female molting on a cycle as fast or faster than a typical sling sling.......I mean, it would have molted many months ahead of the norm....I just don't see how a mature GBB would be able to not only grow a new exoskeleton so quick, much prepare to and molt after that fact....and gain an inch and a half during that time. I mean, did it get bit by a radioactive cricket...lol.:woot:

    Keep in mind my room is about 80 all the time, so I generally see crazy growth rates as the norm...but never anything like this. 2.5-5" in 3 molts, over the course of just 6 months...:bored:

    My AF for example went from 4-4.25 in just 4 and a half months....next cycle it jumped to 4.75"....but it took 341 days for that molt cycle.....and its still not quite 5".


    I think the mistake here, the one mattering most, is the age from the dealer (and I am sure an honest slip of the tongue)....and we all know, age isn't as relevant as size. But the 2.5-5" in that [relatively] short time is simply baffling.
     
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  5. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    It can really go either way....I have had a lot of females grow at much faster rates than the norm. I actually find the slowest growers to most often be males...they tend to catch up with big gains on the ultimate molt.
     
  6. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    This little piece of thought just might be the piece that solved the puzzle. If its cm and not inches, it all makes TOTAL sense....and the t wouldn't be near mature yet.
     
  7. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    even if the info the breeder said was "wrong", she molted 3 times in 3 months. from 2.5". So she may not be 6months, but definitely very close considering her growth rate. I too am surprised, thats why im wondering if shes ols enough to mate. Temps here are 95-100 each day, easily.

    Heres a picture of her size. not even DLS
     

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  8. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    look at the tape measure.. its in inches...
     
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  9. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    Ok, so not that....btw, it doesn't say which unit of measurement is being used....1 2 3 4 could be cm or in.

    Ok, so the tape shows 4", not 5", that makes more sense...I would wait two full molt cycles before breeding her...Wait for her to both get close to 5", and have lengthened her molt cycles...like kezy said, the pace she's molting wouldn't allow for the production of the eggs, much less holding the sac for 30-50 days.
     
  10. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    the tape measure shows 4.5", and not even in DLS. DLS would be longer, making her easily 5". Anyway thanks. yes ill wait for another molt before trying to pair her
     
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  11. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    I don't agree...lol...looks a hair over 4....regardless, I would wait two molt cycles....her molt cycle needs to be lots lots longer to even make breeding feasible.
     
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  12. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    Sorry about the :troll: icon in my first post BTW.....my apologies.
     
  13. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    4.5" without fully stretching her legs.
     

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  14. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    oops bad resolution. here
     

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  15. The Grym Reaper

    The Grym Reaper Arachnoreaper Arachnosupporter

    Entire moult history of my 4 inch DLS female who was purchased in July 2016 as a 2cm sling (she moulted in transit so arrival date is the first moult date), average temps around 25C/77F.

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    OP, yours won't be mature yet, wait at least another moult before attempting breeding.
     
  16. What did I get wrong? I've heard males grow faster than females? Females normally grow larger but slower
     
  17. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    UPDATE.

    she molted today. 2months and 1 day since her last molt. exuv dls is a bit over 4.5". so...
     

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  18. ChaelP

    ChaelP Arachnosquire

    my male is a sub adult, about 4"+. hes in premolt now. i hope he molts into a MM. im planning to pair them. but with my females growth rate, im hoping shell be able to be gravid and lay a sac before molting..
     
  19. KezyGLA

    KezyGLA Arachnoking Active Member

    If she really is moulting at that pace successful breeding is near impossible as she needs conditioned and paired then lay sack which itself takes a couple months for developing before sac. She will most likely moult out and eggs will not be fertilized.
     
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  20. MetalMan2004

    MetalMan2004 Arachnobaron Active Member

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    It took almost 4 months for my gbb to lay a sac after being paired. Prior to that she had to molt and then binge eat until she was full so she wouldn’t eat the male.