Possible bite report?

CreepTumorXD

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Okay so today my coworker had an allergic reaction to something, it may have been a supplement she took, but she was just in a storage building that had allot of spiders in it and she was sitting on the floor when it happened, we called 911 she was red looking, maybe hives or rash and it started to affect her lungs.. I took some pic's of the 5 spiders I found in there and a dead one, webs were all around. tell me what you guys think if you can I.D. these and if you think this was a spider bite. they look like they may be babies of a black widow.. cus I accidentally hatched a bunch one time.. IMG_20170822_153557774.jpg IMG_20170822_153608976.jpg IMG_20170822_153557774.jpg IMG_20170822_153608976.jpg IMG_20170822_153718311.jpg IMG_20170822_153557774.jpg IMG_20170822_153608976.jpg IMG_20170822_153718311.jpg IMG_20170822_153649759.jpg IMG_20170822_153557774.jpg IMG_20170822_153608976.jpg IMG_20170822_153718311.jpg IMG_20170822_153649759.jpg IMG_20170822_153646642.jpg
 

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It's hard to tell from your pictures, but those do not look like black widow spiderlings. And if they were, chances are at the size they're still mostly brown, they wouldn't be able to envenomate your friend. My guess is they are harmless orb weavers If their webs are round.

Also, black widow bites usually result in severe cramping, especially in the abdominal region. I've never heard of a widow bite resulting in hives.
 

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-None of the spiders appear to be Latrtodectus or Loxosceles, the only dangerous spiders in the US
-What you described in the way of symptoms is classical for anaphylaxis.
If you could provide a precise time frame and accurate description of the persons symptoms I could give you a better paramedic assessment. A bite may have triggered sudden onset anaphylaxis; unusual but cannot be ruled out. The time frame would be critical to determine this.
To the best of my knowledge, only Atrax and Phoneutria venom has been able to cause respiratory distress in less than 1 hour, and these are very rare isolated cases.

A much more likely suspect causing anaphylaxis is a sting from a bee or wasp.
 

CreepTumorXD

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Well Snark it happened pretty fast from what I can see, being allergic change that at all? she is allergic to allot of things.
 

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Well Snark it happened pretty fast from what I can see, being allergic change that at all? she is allergic to allot of things.
A person suffering respiratory distress should head to an ER. Anaphylactic shock can snowball in minutes. If the symptoms are minor the person should be observed for 24 hours or until all symptoms subside. The wound/injury should be observed closely for 72 hours. If it expands, becomes red and painful, red lines extending up extremities are observed, or heart palpitation, numbness, disorientation, nausea, returning respiratory distress or neurological symptoms appear, ER STAT.
 

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Fast Benadryl response usually = anaphylaxis or upper respiratory disease such as asthma. Sounds like your co-worker should get seriously on top of what her sensitivities are. With respiratory distress being a typical reaction she should consult a physician regarding carrying a Benadryl inhaler around at all times. If the reaction was severe, consider carrying an epi-pen.
 

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If the reaction was severe, consider carrying an epi-pen.
It's too bad that Mylan has raised EpiPen prices (in the U.S.) to an obscene amount. This is something that a lot of people carry as basically an insurance policy against anaphylaxis, and the more expensive you make it, the less likely people are to have one when they need it.
 

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It's too bad that Mylan has raised EpiPen prices (in the U.S.) to an obscene amount. This is something that a lot of people carry as basically an insurance policy against anaphylaxis, and the more expensive you make it, the less likely people are to have one when they need it.
Amen. We're talking a huge swath of emergency first responders who are dumbfounded, stupefied, that this profiteering travesty exists. Thousands of these emergency workers have used epi, myself included. Tens of thousands.
And to make this an utter farce, it is now far less expensive for a medic to start an IV and add epinephrine to it than for a first responder to use a pen. https://www.buyemp.com/product/epinephrine-vial

But back on track, @CreepTumorXD , consider giving that co-worker the Dutch Uncle spiel. Stay on top of allergies. Respiratory arrest can be a one way ticket even with a crack code blue team seeing it come down.
 
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