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Please explain: Old World vs New World

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by hard_jokur, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. hard_jokur

    hard_jokur Arachnopeon

    :? I keep seeing these terms, "thrown" around when it comes to talking about T's. I see it so much that it's become generic & meaningless to me. Can someone please explain what old world & new world mean?? right now it's clear as mud :(

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  2. becca81

    becca81 Arachnoemperor Old Timer

    Old World Tarantulas are found in the "Old World," meaning Africa, Asia, Europe, etc.

    New World Tarantulas are found in the "New World," meaning North and South America. When the Americas were discovered, they were the "New World."

    Most New World Tarantulas have urticating hairs as their main form of defense.

    Old World Tarantulas have a nasty attitude and bite as their main form of defense.

    To generalize, New World Tarantulas are a bit more docile than Old World Tarantulas. There are some exceptions, of course.
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  3. Bpkid

    Bpkid Arachnosquire Old Timer

    New World-from the continents of the western hemisphere,most of these T's have urticating hairs on their abdomen.

    Old World-From the continents of the Eastern hemisphere.They don't have urticating hairs,but make up for it with a usually nasty dispotion.
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  4. hard_jokur

    hard_jokur Arachnopeon

    THanks guys... :worship:
  5. Henry Kane

    Henry Kane Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Without knowing it may seem meaningless but when you know the meaning of the terms, particularly from personal experience with T's from each category, you can bet that anytime it's mentioned, it's a significant detail. :)

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  6. wolfpak

    wolfpak Arachnobaron Old Timer

    thanks for the educational informations :clap:
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  7. Faelynne

    Faelynne Arachnopeon

    id a G Rosea a NW or OW? :8o
  8. Bry

    Bry Arachnodemon Old Timer

    NW...they are located in Chile (and I think Argentina?), hence the common name Chilean Rose Hair.
  9. Beccas_824

    Beccas_824 Arachnobaron Old Timer

    Old Worlds tend to be a lot meaner usually too-a lot of T's with signigicant venom come from The Old World. I can't think of one Old World t I would recomend as a good "Beginner T"
  10. bagheera

    bagheera ArachnoTiger Old Timer

    Ah, and just to add an historical note, without which I think the definition would be incomplete. The above posts cover all the zoological differences....

    New Word/Old World World are referenced from the European point of view and Columbus' discovery of the "New World" . This was quite a surprise to the Native Americans, as they did not know that they required to be discovered. {D
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  11. defour

    defour Arachnobaron Old Timer

    Really? This is mindblowing! How is it possible that these indigenous folks called themselves "Native Americans" before being happened across by the Europeans? Coincidence? I don't know, but it's mighty weird, and the fact that it's been so obviously omitted from the history books I've read makes me suspicious. And why didn't Von Daniken ever latch onto it? He can smell this kind of thing from miles off, even underwater. Somebody ought to give him a call.

  12. AaronT

    AaronT Arachnopeon

    great info, thanks
  13. I found that most of them can be kept first off as long as the right research is done and respect and caution is shown, as some are species tend to be more defensive and run away when distrubed, then being outwardly aggressive.

    Poecilotheria ornata was my 2nd T followed by regalis being my third, I had an Avic. avicularia first and thats was very slow and calm so big difference with the ornata. lol

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  14. ShadowBlade

    ShadowBlade Planeswalker Old Timer

    Ahh, I love it.{D {D

    Oblivious I believe is the word.

  15. Poxicator

    Poxicator Arachnobaron

    Thanks for the info, I wonder was the outcome of those cures were. Aloe Vera sounds like good advice, I have a few of these in the house so I may be pulling leaves off soon.
    I'm just about to receive my first T - an adult female Lasiodora Klugi, eeek!
    Seems I'm in for both the hairs and the 1 inch fangs!
  16. Moltar

    Moltar ArachnoGod

    NW = Cute, fuzzy and cuddly then itchy.
    OW = "Ouch, my finger!!"
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  17. my first t

    just aquired my first and from the previous post i think i have a old world t, im from australia and the t is phlogius SP 'stents', i got it through a pet store so i think it may have been caught in the wild, so i guess i should try to handle it..... too much.....
  18. jen1302

    jen1302 Arachnopeon

    I have a chili flame sling which with what i found on it does not flick hairs like my chili rose.

    So i'm assuming my chili flame (sling) is old world not new like my rosie or curly.

    Not found much info on this type if anyone has any info on flame always love to find out new things.
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  19. Moltar

    Moltar ArachnoGod

    A chilean flame or chilean fire is a Grammostola rosea, red color form. It IS in fact the same species as a Chilean rose. They're all from south america and thus NW.

    The urticating hair question has nothing to do with whether they DO or DON'T actually kick hairs but rather whether or not they possess them at all.

    There are actually some NW species that don't have urticating hairs. The delineation of OW vs NW has to do with where they're from, period.

    From the Americas = NW
    From anywhere else = OW
  20. cacoseraph

    cacoseraph ArachnoGod Old Timer

    chilean flame might refer to Euathlus or possibly even non-Theraphosidae mygalomorphs.

    (tarantula are from the spider family Theraphosidae. i believe only theraphosidae can flick urticating setae. there are spiders that look *quite* similar to tarantulas that are not from family Theraphosidae. some knowledgeable euro can probably chime in)

    (mygalomorphs are spiders that are generally long lived and have four book lungs and fangs that open downward)