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placing scorpions outside to induce molting?

Discussion in 'Scorpions' started by Div1nE, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Div1nE

    Div1nE Arachnoknight Old Timer

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    would it actually work or have any beneficial effects?

    here in illinois the highs are about 90F, if i were to put an A. australis who is near molting outdoors, would it help to speed the process?

    i could also return the australis indoors during night time.

    if i were to do this, i would put the australis in a kritter keeper, would that be suitable?
     
  2. Himself

    Himself Arachnopeon

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    not to be a pain, but what makes you think this will "induce molting?" My guess is that you will cook him.
     
  3. cacoseraph

    cacoseraph ArachnoGod Old Timer

    any kind of a transparent cage would get super hot in the sun. think of a car left out in the sun.

    if you are going to do this you would have to take great pains to ensure you don't cook your scorp. in deep shadow all day.

    to be honest i think there are more things that could go wrong than possible benefits

    you could just leave a window open in the room your scorp lives in.
    all my bugs live in my bedroom and i pretty much have the window open anytime i am home, rain or shine.
     
  4. Cirith Ungol

    Cirith Ungol Ministry of Fluffy Bunnies Old Timer

    Why the need to hurry up a moult?

    If you put the kk in the sun I doubt it's going to be anything but unhealthy...
     
  5. Div1nE

    Div1nE Arachnoknight Old Timer

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    the dryness of the environment will make it easier for him to shed his exoskeleton?

    btw i would include like a small rock in the KK for him to hide under, it won't be totally bare.



    FYI: i totally made that up, im just trying to sound smart.
     
  6. cacoseraph

    cacoseraph ArachnoGod Old Timer

    when the cage is too dry scorpions have trouble molting

    the thing to understand about scorpions, and i'm stealing this from maybe TheNothing is this

    it's not the environment they live in, it's the micro-environment

    even though those puppies come from nasty hot deserts they spend most of the hot time hiding from the sun under rocks or in burrows.
     
  7. fusion121

    fusion121 Arachnoking Old Timer

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    Actually increases in humidity tend to cause moulting, rather then visa versa.

    Putting the scorpion outside will not have any benefits that are not easily replicable by altering it conditions indoors.
     
  8. carpe scorpio

    carpe scorpio Arachnoking Old Timer

    Ever heard of a "stuck molt"?. :?
     
  9. cacoseraph

    cacoseraph ArachnoGod Old Timer

    agree. when i get the old "i wonder if i can force molt something" urge i usually keep the substrate super moist and the cage heated to the point water is constantly condensing on the inside.

    this mainly seems to help the mites out however

    the only thing i've read about that *might* "force" a molt is... bad

    i hesitate to say it, as it could put bad ideas in the wrong heads...

    but i suspect if you subject a scorpion to a lot of minor cuticle damage it will molt to repair the damage... but it seems like a good way to kill a scorp, more than anything
     
  10. carpe scorpio

    carpe scorpio Arachnoking Old Timer

    Not to mention the potential liability of having a dangerously venomous species that isn't within the confines of one's home.
     
  11. cacoseraph

    cacoseraph ArachnoGod Old Timer


    i think that might qualify as an attractive nuisance or something =P
     
  12. Div1nE

    Div1nE Arachnoknight Old Timer

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    no. please elaborate.



    i have already tried increasing humidity to help it molt, but it was to no avail. it seems i overdid it because the australis ended up contracting mycosis.
     
  13. carpe scorpio

    carpe scorpio Arachnoking Old Timer

    Sorry to hear about the mycosis :( , I have found that with Androctonus, you can just keep feeding them lots of food and keep the heat at 90F+. You can go about 60%-65% if a molt is expected, but it is helpful to be place the hide in such a place as to keep close tabs on when a molt is starting to occur. Also, I have heard that some people have used upturned cups misted on the inside as additional sources of high humidity. If he needs it, he will crawl in. Good luck. :)
     
  14. TheNothing

    TheNothing Arachnoprince Old Timer

    sounds much like a "humidity hide" many herp keepers use with snakes and such, but on a much smaller scale. Not a bad idea. I'll have to cut up some small tupperware containers and see what the scorps have to say about that one...

    By creating a "micro-environment" as mentioned, you should provide something similar to this. Scorpions do tend to spend their time in areas that have much more humidity than the outside world (under rocks and wood). Most socrpions are also nocturnal, which naturally has an increased humidity due to the cooling of air temperatures.
     
  15. pandinus

    pandinus Arachnoking Old Timer

    humidity is to a molting scorp what petroleum jelly is to a proctologist.
    I'm sure the scorp would appreciate the absence of humidity as much as you would appreciate the absence of the latter ;P
     
  16. carpe scorpio

    carpe scorpio Arachnoking Old Timer

    :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  17. pandinus

    pandinus Arachnoking Old Timer

    oh yea, that's right. I went there :wicked:
     
  18. fusion121

    fusion121 Arachnoking Old Timer

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    Obviously it is a fine balance, A. australis can go a long time looking like it is going to moult so increasing the humidty may not help at all since the scorpion may not be ready to moult. I would leave it and let it moult by itself.
     
  19. parabuthus

    parabuthus Arachnodemon Old Timer

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    The last thing I'd do in your position is put it outside...

    Keep the heat/humidity just right and keep the specimen well fed. You can't do any better than that... goodluck.
     
  20. carpe scorpio

    carpe scorpio Arachnoking Old Timer

    Also, watching their daily/nightly activities is crucial if you want to quickly add any humidity just as the molt begins to look imminent.