Ornithoctonus going downhill

[Venom1080]

Molted Jun.21. ate once. Was rehoused a few days later. Never burrowed. Webbed a fair bit.
(Cage rehoused into.)

Fast forward a couple weeks, no tunneling. Pulled off a leg, very inactive. Seems to have only a little control over back two legs on left side.

Thoughts?

Will post more info in a few hours.

 

[Nightstalker47]

The enclosure looks too moist for my liking.

I would let it dry out and keep a water dish in there instead. Lets see some pics of your specimen.

 

[Venom1080]

The peat was freshly moistened. It looks like that as it absorbs the water for a short time.

I moved it to a 16oz deli cup. It pulled off its back left leg.
Seems to have taken the last prekilled cricket.

 

[cold blood]

I like the moisture level, they really need to be kept damp...one of the more prone to dehydration ts out there IME.

I would house it into a significantly larger enclosure personally....they really flourish with lots of space. I also like sub depth for them, but frankly wouldn't personally go as deep as you did....I think that surface space s just as important.


I also prefer to do re houses closer to molting, as this is when the t will automatically want to web and burrow, and this makes the acclimation process much faster. Otherwise species like this can take a long time to adapt to new housing IMO.

Otherwise I don't see it going downhill...what makes you say that? Just looks like its not adapting to the new home quickly.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

A piece of wood as hide, a bit of floor-space, and done

 

[The Grym Reaper]

The original enclosure and moisture level look good to me (I try to avoid letting my juvenile's enclosure dry out at all tbh), I usually bung a couple of anchor points outside the burrow entrance and crumble some bits of moss around to incorporate into their webbing.

 

[Venom1080]

I like the moisture level, they really need to be kept damp...one of the more prone to dehydration ts out there IME.

I would house it into a significantly larger enclosure personally....they really flourish with lots of space. I also like sub depth for them, but frankly wouldn't personally go as deep as you did....I think that surface space s just as important.


I also prefer to do re houses closer to molting, as this is when the t will automatically want to web and burrow, and this makes the acclimation process much faster. Otherwise species like this can take a long time to adapt to new housing IMO.

Otherwise I don't see it going downhill...what makes you say that? Just looks like its not adapting to the new home quickly.

New keeper jitters I suppose.

I've been raising a group of Hysterocrates alongside this one. Fantastic burrowers. And they dug massive tunnels overnight in new cages. Just got worried with this one. I'll set the old cage back up again. And not touch it for a week.

The fact it's super lethargic was also key for making this thread.

 

[BoyFromLA]

I really do hope yours turn out to be just fine.

Mine molted on Tuesday, and started to roam around a bit today.

 

[Venom1080]

I really do hope yours turn out to be just fine.

Mine molted on Tuesday, and started to roam around a bit today.

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Thanks. But I doubt it. I leave for a week today. Don't expect to find it alive on my return.

Love the skyscraper.

 

[Nightstalker47]

Thanks. But I doubt it. I leave for a week today. Don't expect to find it alive on my return.

I guess no news is good news, hope it pulls through man.

@Lyrognathus What part of my post do you disagree with?

 

[Lyrognathus]

I guess no news is good news, hope it pulls through man.

@Lyrognathus What part of my post do you disagree with?

Keeping it drier. They should moist like fossorial Cyriopagopus species, not like African borrowers. I think the humidity/moisture level here is fine. In fact, mine's kept at a similar level.

 

[BoyFromLA]

I guess no news is good news, hope it pulls through man.

I really do hope so too!

 

[Venom1080]

Well, she seems to be doing better. Still doesn't hide or burrow. But has a feeding response.

 

[BoyFromLA]

Well, she seems to be doing better. Still doesn't hide or burrow. But has a feeding response.

That is awesome. It is indeed looking much better!

 

[Venom1080]

That is awesome. It is indeed looking much better!

Yup. I'm pretty happy. I'm not super familiar with Asian fossorials. But how lethargic it was can't be the norm.

Will be fattening heavily over the next couple weeks.

 

[Nightstalker47]

Well, she seems to be doing better. Still doesn't hide or burrow. But has a feeding response. View attachment 282049

Enclosure looks much better, smart move letting it dry out some and putting a water dish in there.

Wonder if its doing better by mere coincidence?

 

[Venom1080]

Enclosure looks much better, smart move letting it dry out some and putting a water dish in there.

Wonder if its doing better by mere coincidence?

If that's what you mean by drying out I suppose.

Seriously though. That's how peat looks when it's absorbing water. Very dark, looks soaked, etc. Don't know how often you use it, but I have it in about 80% of my collection. Raise Lampropelma on it.

 

[Nightstalker47]

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If that's what you mean by drying out I suppose.

Seriously though. That's how peat looks when it's absorbing water. Very dark, looks soaked, etc. Don't know how often you use it, but I have it in about 80% of my collection. Raise Lampropelma on it.

Never have. I thought that was coco fiber to be honest. Still think it looks better though.

Ill give you a tip on those dollarama enclosures, the vent is not nearly as good as it looks. Just keep that in mind when your moistening it.

 

[Venom1080]

Never have. I thought that was coco fiber to be honest. Still think it looks better though.

Ill give you a tip on those dollarama enclosures, the vent is not nearly as good as it looks. Just keep that in mind when your moistening it.

That's actually a good tip. I tend to treat these the same way as the larger kks. Thanks.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

The peat was freshly moistened. It looks like that as it absorbs the water for a short time.
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I moved it to a 16oz deli cup. It pulled off its back left leg. View attachment 280811 View attachment 280812
Seems to have taken the last prekilled cricket.

grats on recovery !!!!
Very cool spider wish ida got some more burrowers my last fossorial was king baboon I’m too broke to buy another for now. Sad