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'Odd' spot on T. Stirmi abdomen.

Discussion in 'Tarantula Chat' started by SBeekman, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    I'm not sure if this is an indication of an upcoming molt (the black spot) or that it's something else. Also, the white stuff surrounding it kind of looks like mold to me. I've checked the enclosure but I haven't found ANY mold at all. Balding patches?

    (Last time she molted was December 14th, or a day before/after that.)

    Sorry, not the best photo.

    Cuddy abdomen.jpg
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2012
  2. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    Oh yeah, and I know there's two locusts there, one half paralyzed and one she's busy paralyzing. Something went horribly wrong when I was taking one out to feed to her.
  3. grayzone

    grayzone Arachnoking Active Member

    im no blondi/stirmi expert, but to ME, that looks diff than any sign of premolt ive seen. when did it molt last, how long has that black stuff been there? looks like either old piece of exuvium, dried nasty poo or somethin worse... try cleanin it with a wet paintbrush/qtip if youre comfortable with doing so.. if its any of the 2 things i suggested it will likely come off.. hope thats all it is.. can ya get diff pics? try sending a pm to Fran... hes knowledgeable with the big beasts if i remember right...

    ---------- Post added 03-14-2012 at 10:56 PM ----------

    aah.. just reread it and got answers to a q or two i asked... yeah, i still think try cleanin it .. post a better pic would help also. i know these guys are prone to cysts and stuff and are often WC and can have problems
  4. dougle

    dougle Arachnosquire

    I was just reading about this species having parasitic wasp larvae in them sometimes if they are wild caught and the wasp larvae maturing and feeding inside the T eventually killing it...hope this is not the case...
  5. Slevin

    Slevin Arachnosquire

    How's her demeanor, Beek? Has she seemed "off" or sluggish in any way? Any changes in her eating habits? And can I ask, what went horribly wrong with the locusts? =P
  6. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    No, she's behaving just like her usual self. Not sluggish or 'off'. And she's still a beast when it comes to eating. And er... I'd rather not elaborate on the locust thing. She actually webbed in one of them.

    Also, looking at photos of cysts on T's, this doesn't look like one.

    And sorry, can't provide better photo's, made about 10 and this was the clearest one. Old, bad camera.

    ---------- Post added 03-15-2012 at 06:35 PM ----------

    You mean the Tarantula Hawk? She's 14 months old, I'm sure it would've come out by now if a Tarantula Hawk had layed eggs in her abdomen.
  7. zonbonzovi

    zonbonzovi Creeping beneath you Staff Member


    Does the locust incident have anything to do with the 'odd' spot?
  8. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    Okay, managed to get a better picture of her abdomen after all. I've tried using a brush with some water but she immediately turned around and attacked the brush! I could try again but don't want to stress her out too much. :-/

  9. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    No. She's had this spot for a week or so. And well, I was taking out a locust from the box they're in, threw it in her tank, and another one jumped right out into her burrow. She attacked both. That's all.

    Sorry, didn't really want to embarrass myself.
  10. zonbonzovi

    zonbonzovi Creeping beneath you Staff Member

    Ah, OK. I thought the locust might have something to do with the spot on the stirmi. Nasty mandibles + soft abdomens = bad. It looks to me like it may have gotten overzealous with kicking setae. Keep an eye on it but it doesn't look threatening at the moment.
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  11. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    Thanks. Feel a bit more reassured now. She's actually very active right now, crawling up the walls and all, which she usually does after having been fed. If it gets worse I'll post some more pictures.
  12. grayzone

    grayzone Arachnoking Active Member

    whats so embarrassing about that? we all had a few escapee feeders at one point or another.. good thing i got some pits... perfect cricket hunters.. as long as i never lose a roach ill be happy. Anyway, hope your ts spot isn't anything serious. keep us updated
  13. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    I just feel a bit intimidated by these boards at times, and this is my first T., and trying my hardest to keep her healthy and not overfeed her. Seems like she ate both locusts in the end. Can't find the remains anywhere, yet, though. She used to always drop them off in front of her burrow, but the last few months it's been hard finding them.

    Anyway, thanks all for the help. :)

    ---------- Post added 03-15-2012 at 10:15 PM ----------

    So they have setae on their abdomen as well? Learn something new everyday.
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2012
  14. Theist 17

    Theist 17 Arachnopeon

    Yeah, they do! That's what urticating "hairs" actually are.

    Tarantulas don't have hairs, as such, but setae, which (if I recall correctly) are hollow tubelike structures, much like a hedgehog's bristles.
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  15. How do you know this?
  16. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    Well, I know not to trust sellers at all, but according to him, she should be 14 months old now.

    Anyway, things don't seem to get better. Using a brush with water on her abdomen only made things worse. At least, it looks worse. :(

  17. Fran

    Fran Arachnoprince

    Hi :)

    First off, I would need to know her size but I highly doubt shes 14 months old. They grow fast, but I still doubt it.
    Second, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Thats a typical Theraphosa spot on her abdomen due to hair flicking and leg rubbing when "cleaning" themselves.
    The color of the skin underneath as well as the overal color shows no signs of premolt (At least not coming any time soon). The brighter and the more red the skin appears, the "fresher" they are with the molt cycle.
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  18. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    Thanks a lot for taking the time to check this out. Feel very much relieved. I have nothing in my house to measure her at the moment, but I'm visiting my mom tomorrow and she'll probably have some tools. :) All I can give right now is a rough size comparison between my finger and her. Was taken a few weeks ago. The seller did have an exact date on paper on when she was born and the molts, but well... As I've learned, rule nr. 1 is to never trust petshop sellers (and this shop was specialized in reptiles on top of that).

    I've cleaned the glass since then and added more substrate, by the way. :)
  19. SBeekman

    SBeekman Arachnopeon

    The spot is getting bigger rapidly. Though I've seen her grooming lately. Just not sure if it's something I should worry about. I'm quite paranoid when it comes to my T. and want her as healthy as possible. If this is nothing problematic, just ignore this post.

    The white spots you see are just glass where there's not substrate. She's been burrowing very deep.
    Cuddy abdomen 2.jpg
  20. grayzone

    grayzone Arachnoking Active Member

    as stated that red/pink spot is nothin to worry about. thats from all the hairs being kicked and rubbed off when its irritated. good news is now that i see all that pink, im not worried about the black nasty spot earlier in this thread. i dont see anything threatening or crucial in this newest pic. no cysts .. all looks ok.. leave it alone for a while and give it a chance to calm down
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