look what i got today!

[versus]

a malaysian trapdoor.. got both of them..

 

[WayneT]

Very nice! What are you planning to use for substrate?

 

[versus]

Very nice! What are you planning to use for substrate?

any suggestions wayne?? i plan to use peat moss around 6-7inches for both of them...

 

[cichlidsman]

Nice spider. WHat are you useing for substrate? How big are they?

 

[versus]

Nice spider. WHat are you useing for substrate? How big are they?

around 3inches... but these guys are fast!! and i'm not sure bout their toxicity of it's venom.... LOL...

 

[luther]

Cute. I seem to remember from recent posts that these have very specific care needs and hot venom, so take care.

 

[cichlidsman]

any suggestions wayne?? i plan to use peat moss around 6-7inches for both of them...

I would'nt use 100%peat because the burrows dont seem to hold togather good. Mix the peat with soem pot soil.

 

[versus]

Cute. I seem to remember from recent posts that these have very specific care needs and hot venom, so take care.

thanks.. no prob

 

[Professor T]

I would'nt use 100%peat because the burrows dont seem to hold togather good. Mix the peat with soem pot soil.

I think this is good advice. You could also go potting soil and vermiculite mix. I think this species uses its webbing to cement particles together to make the trap door. Should be a blast to watch. :}

 

[Zorack]

damn those things look really ulgy, seriously

 

[SeanJo]

I'd like to see that little ugly guy tear up a few crickets...

 

[WayneT]

any suggestions wayne?? i plan to use peat moss around 6-7inches for both of them...

Professor T beat me to it...vermiculite and peat would be my choice! Please take pics of the construction project as well!

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

it seems that what you have there is a Liphistiidae and not a trapdoor-spider,
note the segmentation of the opistosoma!

congrats, you've got a dinosaur amongst the spiders

 

[Malhavoc's]

Wrong catagory. if its a trap door its not a tarantula and belongs in other arachnids

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

I still bet it is some sort of Mesothelae/Liphistiidae

@versus: could you please snap a picture of its underside, perhaps by putting it in a clear deli cup?

it should have its spinnerets right behind the booklungs and the chelicera should open in an intermediar way called plagiognath.
not the downward way (orthognath) like in tarantulas or the sideways way (labidognath) like in true spiders, but something in between!

thanks in advance
Bernhard

 

[DeathRowDisco]

I still bet it is some sort of Mesothelae/Liphistiidae

I, too, would have to agree. This picture shows one pretty well-
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean-marc.birat/liphistius sp.jpg
Another thing about the spinnerets- as was already said, these spiders are like living fossils. Not only are the spinnerets located near the book lungs, most of hte time, they may have 4-6 spinnerets.

 

[versus]

i just got these guys not long.. so do u guys have any advise for their enclosure setups> and care?? if yes, mind post some pics of your setups?? thanks, mate...

 

[Elizabeth]

What Spiff is describing actually sounds more interesting than a trapdoor. I hope you will get the picture of the underside.

Also, you sort of need to know what you have before you finalize your set-up plans, don't you? What is it doing so far? Have you fed it already?

Edit: I just googled and the links aren't great so far:

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/l/li/liphistiidae.html

But it says it is a primitive type of trapdoor spider? Where did you get this interesting spider?

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

I have no clue how to care for them, but i guess a high groundlevel, and a moderately humid and warm climate is fine.

sorry i don'have better advice, I havent kept anything else than tarantulas and beetles

greetings
Bernhard

 

[Elizabeth]

Here's an Amer. Arach. Soc. link

http://www.americanarachnology.org/JoA_Congress/JoA_v27_n1/arac_27_01_0037.pdf

Is this the same thing? If you keep going beyond the text, some pages down there are drawings, then photos of the spider, the habitat (where it was found), eggsacs...