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Is leg thickness an indicator of something?

Discussion in 'Tarantula Chat' started by efmp1987, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member

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    Just noticed that there is a great deal of variability in leg thickness among individuals of the same species. Is this accepted as a good indicator of good physical health? (Not nutritional health, which is different).

    I like thick legs! Turkey all the way (but duck is yummy too).
     
  2. Venom1080

    Venom1080 Arachnoking Active Member

    There is?

    Which species?
     
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  3. EulersK

    EulersK Arachnoengineer Arachnosupporter

    Leg thickness can sometimes be used as an indication of the sex of a tarantula, but only in juvies and subadults. And even then, it's generally not a great idea to definitely sex this way. It's more about an educated guess.

    Generally speaking, females tend to be thick-legged whereas males have skinnier and sometimes longer legs. In some species, this is very apparent even as juvies (B. vagans, for instance).
     
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  4. 14pokies

    14pokies Arachnoprince Active Member

    In a few species the males will have thinner rear legs than females like P.muticus for a clear example.. IMO there is a slight difference in rear leg structure of my H.gigas..

    Female H.maculata also have more robust legs than the males. I think this is mainly due to the fact that the females of this species are much more bulky than the males past 3+inches in general.

    The latter could be said about many species though.( not the 3 inches part, just in general body structure)
     
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  5. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Not only that, but also the amount of hair they have varies (which probably is the reason why the legs of some appear thicker)!
     
  6. miss moxie

    miss moxie Arachnoprince Active Member

    Genetics could play a role as well.
     
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  7. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoprince Active Member

    E.pachypus is easily sexed by comparing the thickness of the last pair of legs. The difference is that big that the male looks like it's from another species.
     
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  8. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    I'm unaware of anyone who has done a thorough comparative study on Ts setae count. This sounds rather suspect.
     
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  9. Moakmeister

    Moakmeister Arachnobaron

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    Yeah it means she thicc
     
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  10. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Check out albopilosum. You would have to be blind to not see that the fluffiness varies. xD
     
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  11. EulersK

    EulersK Arachnoengineer Arachnosupporter

    I have to disagree. Perhaps you're referring to the Nicaraguan variety, but the Honduran B. albopilosum look identical until maturity. I've never seen any difference. Even now, I've got two 3.5" juvies from the same sac that look absolutely identical. One is male, the other female.
     
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  12. 14pokies

    14pokies Arachnoprince Active Member

    I'm beginning to think you post absolute nonsense just so you can argue with people. Lol.
     
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  13. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    I don't need to "check out" albo. I own an adult female I raised from a sling :smuggrin:

    I think you are confused. You were speaking initially about the quantity of setae, and now in the above post you are speaking about the quality of the setae.

    Quantity and Quality are not the same. When you realize what you are actually writing, let us know.

    Here's your quote in case you forgot, notice you wrote the AMOUNT VARIES.....:D

     
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  14. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member


    And you assume with fluffiness I was referring to quality? What are you? A telepath? Funny. Although I do have to admit I wasn't consciously implying quality or quantity when I said fluffiness. And I concede with everyone - every specimen of a given species ARE IN FACT SIMILAR, like coins, and stamps, and other machine-made things.
     
  15. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Nonsense, maybe. But the facts you now know, what were they a hundred years ago? Nonsense. Didn't know to your eyes sharing ones observation is a crime. :)
     
  16. 14pokies

    14pokies Arachnoprince Active Member

    Eh my point is you ask questions and then argue with people when they give you there opinion on the subject.

    It's not a big deal but it may be enough to make people stop replying to your threads.
     
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  17. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member


    You haven't see what I can do yet. I joined a gaming forums and pissed everyone off on my 3rd post (generated 23 pages of hate) HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.

    But ultimately the excitement of the moment (the newbie moment) subsided and everything went back to normal LOL
     
  18. efmp1987

    efmp1987 Arachnopeon Active Member

     
  19. EulersK

    EulersK Arachnoengineer Arachnosupporter

    You know @efmp1987, I'm hearing a lot of backlash from you. Not a lot of substantial posts, however. By the way you type, I know you're educated. Respond to the rebuttals that myself and others presented instead of immediately going on the defensive. This is a discussion forum, and this is a topic that has zero scientific evidence. You're on the same ground as us. Present your ideas in a well thought out manner and perhaps we can have a meaningful discussion. I imagine that's what you wanted in the first place.
     
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  20. 14pokies

    14pokies Arachnoprince Active Member

    That's a pretty imature attitude.. Luckily this forum has an ignore button and you just made the short list ;)...
     
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