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Discussion in 'Insects, Other Invertebrates & Arthropods' started by Tleilaxu, May 19, 2017.

  1. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    The Cheddar Cheese Balls. My new, and possibly temporary Pycnoscelus surinamensis colony.


    For the substrate I used the soil where I found most of them and mixed it with leaves, similar to the place where I caught them. It's namely sandy soil mixed with dead leaves.


    As fate would have it, despite the fact the adults could easily climb glass, they cannot for some reason climb this type of plastic.

    It was not long before I added our first um guest, an adult female.


    After gathering some rotting wood and a few sturdy leaves here is the end result. Food is a chunk of banana and two pieces of dog food.

    As you can see I've also caught a few isopods as a clean up crew, I will need to add more than the four currently in there, I have two separate species.


    After a watering mishap I had to rearrange some things and replace the dog food that got splashed.

    As you can see, the isopods seem to like the new enclosure, the roaches are currently underground.

    And here is the final roach added for now.

    I'm probably going to catch a few more, congrats and well done to @Hisserdude for the positive ID based off a tiny nymph.

    I'm anxious to see how prolific they are since this is a parthenogenetic species. As of now the total is two adults and one nymph.
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  2. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    As a bonus here is the nymph. Quite the glass climber, foiled by the enclosure.

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  3. VolkswagenBug

    VolkswagenBug Arachnoknight Active Member

    It seems like it's hard for climbing roaches to scale rounded tubs like that one. Cheese ball (apparently) and Red Vines tubs work well for containment, in my experience.
  4. Hisserdude

    Hisserdude Arachnoprince Active Member

    Very nice, they'll do well in that setup! :) They are extremely easy to care for and very prolific once they get going, my main culture isn't doing so well ATM, mainly due to overpopulation! So I've separated a few individuals and am trying to sell the rest via Craigslist.
  5. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Well if I ever get too many they can go in here...

    And the clean up crew is wasting no time in doing their job.

    One of the adults came out and is trying and succeeding in stealing a whole piece of dog food, not to mention has made a visible bite mark into it...

    It should be noted that they can apparently see "blacklight flashlights" UV spectrum and hide when illuminated for a few seconds, same with my scorpion, but it has a much harsher reaction than the roaches do.
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  6. Hisserdude

    Hisserdude Arachnoprince Active Member

    Lol yeah you should be covered when it comes to crowd control! :D

    Haha, reminds me of my darkling beetles, they always try to steal whole pieces of kibble for themselves, carrying them away from the main feeding area! :p
  7. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Got some more isopods, I have around six of each species, I have two separate species, one that rolls into a ball and another that is exceedingly fast, especially when compared to the isopods up north.


    These are the fast ones. The pillbugs can be seen in the opening post.
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  8. Hisserdude

    Hisserdude Arachnoprince Active Member

    You have Armadillidium vulgare and Porcellionides pruinosus/floria (really have no idea how to tell those two apart, they are almost identical).
  9. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Need an I'd boys, this one is not doing very well, I placed it in the water dish and it appears to have completely emptied it, it has been refilled and said animal is still there.

    I honestly don't know if it's been damaged in some way, but it's capture in the house was easy, it did not even run...


    I don't think it's an American or German roach due it's sorry state and possible extreme dehydration.


    An update, I think it's not long for this world, it barely moved, at most only it's antenna are twitching.
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  10. 1Lord Of Ants1

    1Lord Of Ants1 Arachnoknight

    That would be an Australian cockroach nymph.

    As for the surinams, they make for a bit of a difficult feeder for anything that lives on a substrate. I do like them quite a bit to add variety to diets though, specifically chameleons. They also gutload very well. They're pretty much ubiquitous in Florida now, I established mine from a couple adults found outside my front door.
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  11. VolkswagenBug

    VolkswagenBug Arachnoknight Active Member

    Periplaneta australasiae.
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  12. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Well as I predicted it died where I left it, aw well, it never hurts to try and help.

    On a positive note I found some of these guys. IMG_20170525_132812.jpg IMG_20170525_132841.jpg IMG_20170525_132907.jpg IMG_20170525_132927.jpg

    This puts my total around 10 or so, now I just have to be patient and wait for nature to take its course.

    Though I may get an Australian roach Mascot if I can find a healthy one. It would be nice not to have "pet sand and leaves".
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  13. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    I'm actually curious about this, can you go into further detail? Do you have some literature I can look at? What makes one animal better for gut loading than another? (I know what gut loading is btw) I just find animal nutrition an interesting topic to study.

    These two win the idiot of the year award for being dumb enough to be running around in broad daylight...


    They seem to have learned their lesson and are now hiding.
  14. 1Lord Of Ants1

    1Lord Of Ants1 Arachnoknight

    In regards to what I said, It simply comes down to how voracious they are, and how much an individual eats in a sitting. An established colony is a writhing mass of earth that drags anything placed upon their substrate down under to be devoured. I only keep them on coconut coir only, simply because they will eat everything, including wood and leaves which might dilute a gutload. Some insects, crickets for example, can be picky in what gutload they take and how much they eat at a time. These guys are the opposite.
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  15. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Awesome, thanks for the detailed explanation. :)

    That's probably why I never see them eating the dog food or fruit, since I'm using the same soil I caught them in, along with palatable (presumably) leaves and rotted wood.

    Since these are just being kept for their own sake I'm not too concerned, just trying to get the basics down and refine my personal techniques before I start a serious attempt at a few dedicated feeder and pet colonies.
  16. Galapoheros

    Galapoheros ArachnoGod Old Timer

    I found one with my Hissers. I thought, "OK, that's kinda cool." I had 1000s of hissers. It didn't take long before I had 1000s of Surinams and only about 20 Hissers, they took over that house! It took a while to re-establish the Hissers. Then I kept a few Surinam roaches in a one gallon jug like you have there for a while. I used them for feeders now and then. I found some nymphs in my wood pile, looked like that but I was fooled, they turned out to be green banana roaches.
  17. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Well snagged one more, this one was super fast and the only one to try and climb the enclosure, she makes it nearly halfway before falling on her face.
    I'm also starting to see critters running around at normal hours.
    Even some roaches are coming out for tasty treats.
    This is a HUGE nymph almost rivalling the adults. IMG_20170528_004257.jpg IMG_20170528_010755.jpg Here's a currently reddish one...
    And can you find the roach in this pic, I'm sure it's the culprit who dragged the orange piece off...

    On a slightly more interesting note, I think I have actually seen some wild males of this species. They are supposedly sterile and cannot mate with the females.

    I will try to catch some, but they are really fast and hard to see before they bolt for it.
  18. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer


    Well after a few hours hunting, feeding ants to the local doodle bugs, I have managed to catch the mascot for the colony and will add much needed surface activity.

    No... That's not the mascot.
    These guys are. I'm hoping they are Ozzie roaches, and even better if they were male and female. (I know one is still a nymph)
    Not even 30 seconds in and the adult is hoarding the food pellets.

    Well after some digging they look like the filthy American Roach, later today I will be releasing them, I'm not keeping a severe pest species.
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  19. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Some roach feeding pics.

  20. Tleilaxu

    Tleilaxu Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Well I caught the official mascot after a few days if searching.

    IMG_20170601_231728.jpg IMG_20170601_231658.jpg IMG_20170601_231620.jpg
    Capturing this one was tricky, and it eventually had to be dropped into a swimming pool to ensure it's capture. Completely different than the poor Ozzie roach I found in the house.

    And finally a feeding pic, they really prefer these light brown kibbles to the darker brown kibbles.
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