Identification help

[El Johano]

Hi all,
could anyone please give me some help on the ID of the scorpion pictured below? I know what I think it is, but I'd like to get a second opinion! If you need more pics of details or better quality ones please let me know!
Thanks!

 

[G. Carnell]

Difficult one IMO

From "looks alone" i would say Heterometrus xanthopus/fulvipes/madraspatensis

To get any further than that you need to have a go at Kovaricks ID key: http://www.factorioforums.com/scorpio/pdf/2004-Heterometrus.pdf

would be interesting to know how you got to your ID too!!


EDIT: regarding better pictures (key)

2. Fifth segment of metasoma longer than femur of
pedipalp, fourth segment of metasoma about as long as
femur of pedipalps............... 3
- Fifth segment of metasoma about as long as femur of
pedipalp, fourth segment of metasoma shorter than
femur of pedipalps ............... 4

Couldnt work this out based on the pictures!

after this:
8. Total length of adults less than 80 mm .............. 9
- Total length of adults more than 80 mm ............ 10

Quite a weird way to determine species... by 1mm more or less than 80! but oh well..

also without a male and female to check for sexual dimorphism, you wont be able to tell between these two:

10. Male and female chela differently shaped but of
about the same width, its length to width ratio 1.7–1.9 in
both sexes............. H. fulvipes (C. L. Koch, 1837)
- Chela narrower in male than in female, its length to
width ratio 2.0–2.5 in males and 1.7–1.9 in females
............. H. madraspatensis Pocock, 1900


All keys were extracted from Kovarik's review of the genus heterometrus linked previously

 

[El Johano]

Thanks for your input!
I haven't had the time to take better pictures or to have a go at the key yet. I'll post an update when I have!
The ID that I have is just what they were labelled as when I got them in a trade a few years back, they were only scorplings at the time. I have been suspicious whether it it is correct, but I am not familiar with the Heterometrus taxonomy.