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Hey,
yes, i personally think the second centipede is a Scolopendra multidens, based on the taxonomical features we have seen here so far.
It would be nice to see the same 20th legs from the first centipede we assumed to be cingulatoides. If it features a tarsal spine on 20th legs then it can't be S. multidens and hence must be S.s. cingulatoides somehow (..and then it may be a proof that S.s. cingulatoides really exists).
If it lacks tarsal spines on 20th legpair (maybe you can check both legs) then we have a problem...or better: I could only assume by location if it's cingulatoides or not (and maybe Attems took S. multidens for S. s. cingulatoides...and cingulatoides is only a different local color morph of S. multidens...but i'm only guessing).
Since differences in subspinipes-subspecies seem sometimes weird and irrational (I'd personally synonymize mutilans with nominate, cause there is no real difference besides coloration and "paramedian sutures don't reach the end of each sternite completely") i don't wonder about the actual confusion between multidens, s. cingulatoides and s. japonica.
I have a Scolopendra subspinipes subspinipes from Malaysia that also lacks a tarsal spine on 20th legs on one side, but the other leg features it (but ofc has way thinner and longer terminal legs) - so most of the differences between those subspecies are based on variable taxonomic features (except lack of ventral prefemoral spines in dehaani).
Regards
Turgut
yes, i personally think the second centipede is a Scolopendra multidens, based on the taxonomical features we have seen here so far.
It would be nice to see the same 20th legs from the first centipede we assumed to be cingulatoides. If it features a tarsal spine on 20th legs then it can't be S. multidens and hence must be S.s. cingulatoides somehow (..and then it may be a proof that S.s. cingulatoides really exists).
If it lacks tarsal spines on 20th legpair (maybe you can check both legs) then we have a problem...or better: I could only assume by location if it's cingulatoides or not (and maybe Attems took S. multidens for S. s. cingulatoides...and cingulatoides is only a different local color morph of S. multidens...but i'm only guessing).
Since differences in subspinipes-subspecies seem sometimes weird and irrational (I'd personally synonymize mutilans with nominate, cause there is no real difference besides coloration and "paramedian sutures don't reach the end of each sternite completely") i don't wonder about the actual confusion between multidens, s. cingulatoides and s. japonica.
I have a Scolopendra subspinipes subspinipes from Malaysia that also lacks a tarsal spine on 20th legs on one side, but the other leg features it (but ofc has way thinner and longer terminal legs) - so most of the differences between those subspecies are based on variable taxonomic features (except lack of ventral prefemoral spines in dehaani).
Regards
Turgut