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Hybrid Trouble

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by MantisSpider29, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. MantisSpider29

    MantisSpider29 Arachnopeon Active Member

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    Teal, go ahead and share the pictures i sent you. I have trouble getting them to post here as the come from my phone.
     
  2. Teal

    Teal Arachnoking Active Member

    Sure thing! The first photo is the female, the rest are the MM.
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  3. Nightstalker47

    Nightstalker47 Arachnoprince Active Member

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  4. MantisSpider29

    MantisSpider29 Arachnopeon Active Member

    No idea. Beinging crazy and stupid. But a mere picture doesnot describe her size. Also how can you tell it is a P.rufilata?
     
  5. Teal

    Teal Arachnoking Active Member

    What does her size have to do with anything??

    That's four people now who agree it is a MM rufi lol
     
  6. MantisSpider29

    MantisSpider29 Arachnopeon Active Member

    I have hands that are about 10 inches in length. She is the size of my hand that is where the whole size thing comes from. But, not to get away from the true discussion.
    I will not destroy the sac if/when she lays it. If it hatches in can offer great information into tarantula hybrids especially with poecilotheria. I can keep them communally and give pics of them as they mature. Who knows what will happen.
     
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  7. KezyGLA

    KezyGLA Arachnoking Active Member

    That looks like a MM rufilata to me too
     
  8. MetalMan2004

    MetalMan2004 Arachnobaron Active Member

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  10. Teal

    Teal Arachnoking Active Member

    Oh okay, so you're just commenting on her size? I was trying to figure out what it has to do with the pairing lol Ornatas are large pokies!
     
  11. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    Poecilotheria lay big eggsacs, iirc. If you decide to let them live, I would apply natural selection to happen, or you might need to create a LOT of shelf space to keep 150+ Pokies, even if you create communals.
    I wouldn't hatch it. Especially with the strain on Pokies developing since they are banned from selling/importing/exporting. Your little accident is why US wildlife organization doesn't trust hobbyists to breed responsibly.
     
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  12. MantisSpider29

    MantisSpider29 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Do the males keep the leg pattern underneath once they mature or, does it change?
     
  13. Whitelightning777

    Whitelightning777 Arachno-heretic Arachnosupporter

    I'd keepa few just to see what the maximum size is. Both of those are considered tied in first place for the biggest arboreal tarantula.

    There is such a thing as hybrid vigor whereby the hybrid is larger then either parent. The Liger is the most well known example.

    If you do give away or sell them, get a written legal agreement that they will never be bred. Sell them at cost not for profit.

    Since P ornata can no longer be sold across state lines, there might be some interest, closest thing you can get to P ornata these days in America. I'm not sure about the other one, but because they don't occur in nature restrictions don't apply.

    I doubt they will be feeders for mantids, but vice versa. You could break them up into communals, but will have to separate before they are breeding age.

    The main thing is that they not be bred.
     
  14. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    @MantisSpider29
    Are you aware of the ban that came into effect August 30? Unless you know people in your state, you will have zero potential buyers. Give aways maybe, but not a lot, I think.
    So unless you're willing to raise 150+ Pokies, you should, imo, not hatch this sack.
     
  15. MantisSpider29

    MantisSpider29 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Guys, I just want to know if the underside of the males legs keeps the pattern as the females. Iam trying my hardest to figure out even if this a hybrid issue. Pictures can only do so much on my phones crap quality. I have had people say p.rufialta on the male others said they dont know. So I will keep working on this until Iam 100% Sure of what happened. This was a lack of record keeping and potential poo brain almost over a year ago. Iam aware of the ban but, I had no funds then. I do now.
     
  16. Greasylake

    Greasylake Arachnoangel Active Member

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    As far as I know they do. I think the only thing that changes with maturity is the colors, but not the patterning itself. If you need help with the ventral pics send them to me in a PM and I can try to help you out.
     
  17. MantisSpider29

    MantisSpider29 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Thank you. That is all I wanted to know. Also if its possible could a mod lock this thread. I got the information I need to do more digging on my own.