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skinheaddave said:
The chela of the "male" on the other thread with pictures seemed rather bulbous = male. You are right that it does seem a bit chubby. BTW, Razzle, males have the longer pectines, not shorter.

Cheers,
Dave
Sorry, I meant to say that the male has Longer pectines, not shorter. Im so freaking confused and stressed today I dont know what im talking about. :(
 

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long thin chella are female, shorter ones with a bubble near the hand joint are males, at least thats how i sexed all my scorps cept the Hadrusus species

a lil harder to sex A Australis though
 

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Hi,
It's true for a few genus like Parabuthus spp and Androctonus spp, and not all the species of these genus. In my experience, my males A.australis had chelas more bulbous, but not my males mauritanicus or bicolor. I will try to put a photo.
Greetings,
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Wolvie56X said:
long thin chella are female, shorter ones with a bubble near the hand joint are males, at least thats how i sexed all my scorps cept the Hadrusus species

a lil harder to sex A Australis though
Hi,
its not male=bulbous female=thin in terms of claws for all species
just most buthids i think
 

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Ythier said:
...but not my males mauritanicus or bicolor. I will try to put a photo.
Greetings,
Eric
Hi,

I agree, I don´t see any difference in the male´s and female chelae of the specimens in my possession either. The only way I determined their sexes was to count the pectinal teeth.
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Greetings
Alex
 

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Interesting. I see a noteable difference between males and females I have preserved.

Cheers,
Dave
 

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Hi,

maybe it depends on the subspecies. Where are your specimens from, Dave?

Greetings
Alex
 

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Yes I forgot, mine are b.aeneas, but I think you have some b.bicolor Alex ?
Here's some pics (sexes are sures, they reproduced).
Greetings,
Eric

A.bicolor female........................................A.bicolor male


A.mauritanicus female.....................A.mauritanicus male
 

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not much difference in "bulbosity"........

this is confusing
 

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well as you can see, there is a gap in the males claw that allows him to hold the females claws while doing minimal damage
 

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Ythier said:
Yes I forgot, mine are b.aeneas, but I think you have some b.bicolor Alex ?
Here's some pics (sexes are sures, they reproduced).
Greetings,
Eric

Now that is an Ugly little B*****d I sure as hell wouldnt want to wake up next to one of thoughs!!! :eek:
 

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With any luck I will get some pics tommorow and I can show you what I'm talking about.

Cheers,
Dave
 

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Hey, I caught the two of them going crazy yesterday morniing. The young one was clinging on to the divider, just barely hanging off. The large male was on the top of the screen on the OPPOSITE side of where he was suppost to be. It took me 15 minutes just to get him to let go of the screen (useing cardboards and deli cup). So I went to the store and bought a 2 1/2 gallon tank and separated the little scorps. Thank god now I have nothing to worry about. I would really love to see them live together but I just cant worry every day about them killing each other. ;P I hope that when the female matures (and she is a female, I saw her little pectines) that I can introduce them and safely have a good successful mate. ;)
 

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Ythier said:
Yes I forgot, mine are b.aeneas, but I think you have some b.bicolor Alex ?
Here's some pics (sexes are sures, they reproduced).
Greetings,
Eric

A.bicolor female........................................A.bicolor male


A.mauritanicus female.....................A.mauritanicus male

Hi,
Here's a better pic of the hand of an adult male.
Not very bulbous...
Greetings,
Eric
 
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Eric,

Perhaps "bulbous" was the wrong term. But look at the line formed along the back edge of the manus and fixed finger. The female's almost follows a perfectly smooth line, whereas the males bulges out slightly. You can't see it in the last picture there, since the angle is too low. My camera is currently at work, but I did just take a look at my specimens and found that this observation was consistent with the specimen's sex as determined by the pectines and general body morphology.

Cheers,
Dave
 

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Hi Dave,
I just had a look on my b.aeneas in alcohol...and this line seems to be more bulging that on the male ! ;)
But as Alex said, perhaps we have different subspecies.
In my opinion the best way to sex this species is the general morphology.
Greetings,
Eric
 
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Eric,

Ythier said:
But as Alex said, perhaps we have different subspecies.
This seems probable. I respect you and know you know what you're talking about -- but I know what I'm seeing. I have no idea on collection locale for my specimens.

In my opinion the best way to sex this species is the general morphology.
It is definitely the easiest -- being able to see the male's pectines when looking down from above is a pretty good clue. ;)

Cheers,
Dave
 

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skinheaddave said:
It is definitely the easiest -- being able to see the male's pectines when looking down from above is a pretty good clue. ;)
Yes, don't know why Fet & co don't put this efficient key in their papers ! ;)
 
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