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Feeding dead insects?

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by Tiler Oneill, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. PidderPeets

    PidderPeets Arachnodemon Arachnosupporter

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    Caribena versicolor (btw @Tiler Oneill, that species is called Caribena versicolor now, not Avicularia versicolor) is a NW T. Unless the "T" in that instance is referring to "terrestrial", in which case I think some clarity is in order.

    Personally, I don't think there would be anything wrong with getting a versicolor as a first T. I've even suggested it to people before. My girl was my second/third T (I got a second and third sling at the same time, so do with that what you will) and I thought the fear-mongering in online claims about how fragile these guys are was vastly unwarranted once I actually got one and raised her up. This website is probably the best source of husbandry information for more species than you can think of, so just following the (extremely simple and easy to find) care advice on here should be more than enough to make a C. versicolor just fine as a first T.

    Aside from that point, I agreed with everything else you had to say
     
  2. Torech Ungol

    Torech Ungol Arachnosquire Active Member

    That may have been the point, but the fact remains that your post contains information which is demonstrably false. It's fundamentally no different from saying a dog is a cat. The purpose of this forum is for a like-minded community to gather and share information, and that's only useful insofar as the information being shared is accurate. A much better response would be to edit the initial post such that the error no longer exists, rather than criticize those who correct the mistake.
     
  3. darkness975

    darkness975 Brachypelma darknessi Arachnosupporter

    Just feed it one cricket every week or every other week. That's all it needs anyway and you wont have to keep them then.
     
  4. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    We differ that's all. Avics have a narrow tolerance for husbandry errors, especially with first time owners as they are more likely to make errors. NW are more hardy, more forgiving.

    There's a reason we see tons of "Help my Avic Dying/Dead" over the past decade here. There's NOT a single species or genus of T on this forum that has more threads and deaths than Avics. There are many terrestrials that are equally as popular as Avics, so the frequency is not due to popularity.
     
  5. WildSpider

    WildSpider Arachnoknight Active Member

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    I agree with this. I think I've heard of someone using a string to move the prey before though. I myself also use very long pieces of grass (not sprayed) or straw to move the prey items.

    I like this idea. If you live near a pet store, it seems like a pretty nice option.

    I have also heard of people having success with pieces of meat and very recently I heard fish food and egg. I know I've heard the concern that just a piece of meat does not necessarily offer all the nutrition the spider needs so that should be taken into account. I also am not supposed to have the feeders in the house so I keep them out in the shed during summer and also try to find some that can stand the winter. If they can't, I buy more.

    Don't know if this is a great idea but am trying to raise some insects from where I live as feeders. I try to catch them in places that aren't sprayed and I'm also planning on waiting till at least the next generation before I start feeding them to my T. I might even wait more generations just to make sure any potential toxins are out of their system.
     
  6. PidderPeets

    PidderPeets Arachnodemon Arachnosupporter

    I certainly can't argue with you on that. I've had to tell so many people that Avic care sheets are outdated that I've considered making a generic post to have saved that I can post whenever it's needed (that way there's also a short explanation in the actual thread as well as the proper care sheet of yours that people always link in those threads). They're definitely more common victims of improper husbandry compared to most other species. But when someone is already on this site, I give them a little extra benefit of the doubt when it comes to their ability to raise certain species. They already have access to the correct information, and often already understand that many care sheets are incorrect. And if they don't know, they have the perfect place to ask to be sure, and tend to be willing to ask more questions because they know they'll get the right answer on here.

    I like using bendy straws. They're safe for the T to bite accidentally, they're long for extended reach, and are flexible so they work in hard to reach areas. For me, it works well for skittish fossorial Ts and Avics. They also work great for pulling out molts for the same reasons

    I suppose it would work, but I wouldn't want to use that for any extended period of time. Plus there's no garauntee the T would accept it. I don't think fish food would work at all though. Maybe actual fish.

    Second generations would be totally fine as they would have never been exposed to any chemicals in the wild. :)
     
  7. WildSpider

    WildSpider Arachnoknight Active Member

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    Awesome, glad to have another opinion :).
     
  8. Ultum4Spiderz

    Ultum4Spiderz Arachnoking Active Member

    I usually use metal tongs to drop prey near the T . I’ve seen YouTube videos were people hand feed with tongs . Imagine some break fangs
     
  9. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    I know you can't argue on that one because it's a fact ;) Pretty crazy too after you see it REGULARLY.

    As for benefit of doubt, presence on board-- I don't do that at all. Having access to sound information and using it or even looking for it are VERY different things. I don't give people benefit of the doubt simply because they are here. Some of us have seen plenty of idiots here. Again, let me point you to the tons of Avic owners ;) Or the many others who ask questions that are so common and easily found that's it's a total joke and outright LIE when they write "I've been doing my research but I can't find this [insert dumb question]"

    A good one to insert "can Ts bite?" or any other like that.
     
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