Euathlus sp Red vs Euathlus sp Fire

[MrDave]

Are these the same thing? The 2 local sellers offering E sp. 'Red' no longer offer them, while the 3rd has E. sp. 'Fire'. My search around here and other places suggests they are, but there's not much conviction.

 

[louise f]

Yes it is the one and same tarantula. Also called Chilean Fire Rump Tarantula

 

[MrDave]

Yes it is the one and same tarantula. Also called Chilean Fire Rump Tarantula

Thanks! It seems strange to me that the seller would use 'Fire' when all the positive things being said about this spider refer to it as 'Red'.

 

[Arachnomaniac19]

Thanks! It seems strange to me that the seller would use 'Fire' when all the positive things being said about this spider refer to it as 'Red'.

I'd assume it's a marketing thing. New name=More buyers.

 

[Poec54]

Thanks! It seems strange to me that the seller would use 'Fire' when all the positive things being said about this spider refer to it as 'Red'.

One of the many reasons why people should stop using common names. They're worthless.

 

[MrDave]

One of the many reasons why people should stop using common names. They're worthless.

It seems that until they describe this spider, 'Euathlus sp. Red' is only slightly better than 'Chilean Red Rump' (or whatever it is).

 

[Storm76]

It's actually assumed to be a Homoeomma spp. and not Euathlus at all if I remember Dr. Longhorn correctly.

 

[viper69]

It's actually assumed to be a Homoeomma spp. and not Euathlus at all if I remember Dr. Longhorn correctly.

That is correct.

Euathlus is a place holder, I believe B smithi's genus was once E.

 

[pyro fiend]

That is correct.

Euathlus is a place holder, I believe B smithi's genus was once E.

actually that one i know your right on the money with. a friend i know has had his smithi for like 20 yr+s and its container still was labeled "Euathlus Smithi" i thought he had been duped at first till i did some digging around ^_^

 

[Storm76]

For that species it certainly is a place holder, although it isn't one in general to my knowledge. A number of Brachys were once Euathlus spp. I'm aware, but I wouldn't go as far as stating that genus is a placeholder in general, mate. Science and forms of taxonomy get more modern like everything else over time, so it's safe to assume mistakes were made back then and corrected later. Just like with a lot of other genera and species we'll see in time I guess.

 

[viper69]

For that species it certainly is a place holder, although it isn't one in general to my knowledge. A number of Brachys were once Euathlus spp. I'm aware, but I wouldn't go as far as stating that genus is a placeholder in general, mate. Science and forms of taxonomy get more modern like everything else over time, so it's safe to assume mistakes were made back then and corrected later. Just like with a lot of other genera and species we'll see in time I guess.

Saw the smithi with the E genus on World Book of Spiders, Plotnick's site I believe. Regardless I saw it in scientific taxonomical literature. That's all I know my man!

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

One of the many reasons why people should stop using common names. They're worthless.

Yeah true, I only use them when I don't feel like typing out long latin names. Sellers should only be aloud to use latin names.:coffee: