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emperor scorpion or asian scorpion

Discussion in 'Scorpions' started by chilean, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. chilean

    chilean Arachnosquire

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    I purchased an "emperor" scorpion from some guy who bought it at the pet store. But as you all know, they are usually wrong on everything they say... lots of info shows it could be an asian forest scorpion.
    Since both types can be social, can an emperor be put in an aquarium with an asian forest scorpion?
     
  2. chilean

    chilean Arachnosquire

    i know it's a total newb question, but I am a total newb. Thank you for any info.
     
  3. inverts

    inverts Arachnobaron Old Timer

    Heterometrus species (Asian forest scorpions) are generally more aggressive than P. imperators (emperors), so there is some chance of cannibalism. However, some people have successfully kept the two species together.

    Do you have a picture of the new scorpion? Are its claws granulated or smooth?
     
  4. chilean

    chilean Arachnosquire

    granulated,
    but it's claws has a wide stance while in defense mode
    and it does have grooves in it's claws
    my boyfriend saw a show about scorpions and swears it's an asian (although I didn't see the show)
    i am unable to post pics, sorry, can't figure that out, never did

    thanks for the info about cannibalism (but maybe that could mostly happen if they are not fed enough?)

    it's because I switch it's enclosure and he has alot of room and he could definetly have a room mate in there
     
  5. LeilaNami

    LeilaNami Arachnoking Old Timer

    nope it didn't {D Either way, the "emperor scorpions" sold at stores (especially Petco) have the chance of being true emps, H. spinifer, or P. cavimanus. Either way, it is possible for a communal tank however don't be surprised if one gets munched.
     
  6. ~Abyss~

    ~Abyss~ Arachnoking Old Timer

    These species are usually the best to keep communally if you want to experiment with interspecies communities. They are less likely to canabalize than some other species that people have kept but do expect some initial fighting so you should monitor them closely for a few days.
    -Eddy
     
  7. chilean

    chilean Arachnosquire

    would it be best to put a glass barrier between them? or just to do it?
     
  8. ~Abyss~

    ~Abyss~ Arachnoking Old Timer

    I would use seperate enclosures BUT if you want to experiment with keeping them together is to clean the enclosure and substrate by boiling it or put new sub in there and adding at least three hides. I suspect they will fight for a while but withing a matter of days they will get along. I've kept 3 P.imps and 2 H. spinifers in a 5 gallon tank all different sizes with no problem. Most of the time they will share a hide. Although most people would tell you(and I agree) 5 is kinda pushing it.
     
  9. abyss did you mean in a 50 gallon? 5 seams REALLY small for 5 scorps. considering the general rule of thumb is 1 emp per 5 gallons. just wondering
     
  10. ~Abyss~

    ~Abyss~ Arachnoking Old Timer

    No i meant 10 gallong tank....i dont know why I put 5. Still it was pushing it.
     
  11. signinsimple

    signinsimple Arachnobaron

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    It's been my experience thus far keeping multiple forest species together, that so long as they are relatively the same size, the chances of anyone getting eaten are pretty low. I'd go with no divider (and still do).
     
  12. mrbonzai211

    mrbonzai211 Arachnobaron

    I had a problem with canabalization with a pregnant female H. laoticus. Before she gave birth she ate 1 male laoticus (the other male died of old age), then after she gave birth and the young left her back she ate the two emps that were with her. She never had a problem before this, I guess she just went crazy hormonal on me.
     
  13. vanquisher91

    vanquisher91 Arachnosquire

    Firstly I would recommend you post some pics to have it ID'd. Secondly, I recommend against housing multiple scorps of uncertain species together. Heterometrus spp. tend to be more aggressive than your average Pandinus and can easily cause troubles with other tank mates. However, many people have had good experiences with mixing species from the same geographic region without problem. If you do decide to mix them together, be very vigilant of them.
     
  14. chilean

    chilean Arachnosquire

  15. calum

    calum Arachnoprince

    DEFINETLY an Emp.
     
  16. dairy

    dairy Arachnoknight

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    IMO your substrate looks pretty dry. These guys are pretty hardy but a little more moisture wouldn't hurt.
     
  17. calum

    calum Arachnoprince

    it's just the top layer that's dry. it's fine underneath. :)
     
  18. that is one nice emp

    asian scorps like heterometrus sp. look relatively like this

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  19. lweigle55555

    lweigle55555 Arachnopeon

    :wicked: :wicked: :wicked:
    no afence to your boyfriend in any way since i dont really know him at all and for all i know he could be an entomologist or a scorpion expert.

    but i love it when people see that little scorpion show on animal plaint that doesnt go in depth about taxonomy at all and is provides a moderate amount of information at best . you will learn more information on form sites than most books or shows can ever teach you

    yes if the chela (pincer) is nice and granny its probly a Pandinus. Sp and if its nice and smooth than it is more likely to be an Heterometrus Sp. the only really exception is the red claw Pandinus cavimanus but that shouldn't be the case with yours you'd know if you had one there pretty aggressive

    luke