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Choeradodis sp.

Discussion in 'Insects, Other Invertebrates & Arthropods' started by Sarkhan42, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

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    Well, it finally happened. I finally am going to be receiving exactly 3 choeradodis nymphs sometime this week, and I am absolutely over the moon about it! I’ve been after these since I was a little kid, they’ve been a huge dream of mine.

    What I’ve heard as to care is that they require a pretty high constant humidity, and do poorly in well ventilated mesh cages do to their inability to retain the humidity they need. They apparently also require walls or foliage they can cling to and rest on, as they seldom rest upside down apart from molting. Any other tips for their care are greatly appreciated, I can use any advantages I can get.

    And of course as always, I’ll update this thread with photos as they arrive :D
     
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  2. ToxoHP

    ToxoHP Previously LamboMantisMan23

    Hi there, I've basically never posted here but I'll give a little background to myself, I'm a breeder of rare exotic praying mantids, including your Choeradodis. Just so I'm not some random guy, I have hatched Choeradodis myself and raised a fair few to adult.

    Not sure who you purchased them from, I'm assuming Moritz Kusche? Choeradodis are incredibly tricky. They require very high humdiity (Ooths hatch at 99% humidity), very high air flow and very picky on food. After all the years I have kept mantids, Choeradodis have to be the bitchiest species I know, and I have kept many species people believe are very hard. I do kind of have an issue with Moritz selling to people who don't have the experience or knowledge (not saying you don't at all).

    As they get larger, they require foliage with large leaves, as that is how they blend in. They also prefer crawling pray, such as grasshoppers and other mantids (fruitflies are fine at L1/L2).

    I just want you to realise if they don't make it and you believe you did everything right, then don't blame yourself. Any other questions, let me know.

    All else I can say is, GOOD LUCK!
     
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  3. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

    Thanks so much for your post, there’s a lot of fantastic content in it. I think I recognize your profile picture from facebook, so no worries on trying to make clear your credibility :)

    I’ve got plenty of invert rearing and mantis rearing experience with a variety of species, but it does sound quite daunting. I’m definitely attempting to gather as much information as I can to help these little ones succeed.

    I’m actually not receiving them from the vendor you stated. I’m in the US funny enough, as rare as they are out here.

    Is there a particular temperature range you keep them successfully at? Just wondering if I’ll need to provide supplemental heating or if I’ll need to keep them in a different room to maintain correct conditions.
     
  4. ToxoHP

    ToxoHP Previously LamboMantisMan23

    You’re in the US with Choeradodis nymphs? Jesus I don’t even wanna know the price you paid.

    As for temperate, I keep mine at 24-28 in the day, then down to 18 at night. Day time should be 80% humidity, night should be 99%.

    Also, were you told what species it was? Choeradodis rhombicollis is the easiest and is so much less stress than others.

    If you send photos, I can ID them. My guess is that it is either C. rhombicollis or C. rhomboidea.
     
  5. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

    The seller received them as simply choeradodis sp, so I’ll be sure to post pictures for ID. I also won them in an auction so the price was actually excellent, I got incredibly lucky. I’ve dealt with the seller on multiple occasions before and they’ve been nothing but excellent as well, otherwise I would be far more skeptical.

    Again, thanks for all your help!
     
  6. ToxoHP

    ToxoHP Previously LamboMantisMan23

    Ahhhhhh you got them from Cheryl. Hmmmm... well I won’t go into seller drama or whatever, but auctioning off Choeradodis to random people isn’t the best thing to do, however it’s not something I wouldn’t see Cheryl doing lol.

    Anyyywaayy, good luck with them.
     
  7. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

    Of course there was a “processing exception” at a USPS facility and so it didn’t get here today :meh::sour:. No updates through tracking since yesterday either. Of course it had to happen with some of the most fragile inverts I’ve ever ordered.
     
  8. ToxoHP

    ToxoHP Previously LamboMantisMan23

    Damm that sucks. I wish I could be the bearer of better news, but whenever that's happened to me, I never got the package :( You may still get it though, hopefully in time.
     
  9. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

    By some stroke of luck they arrived at the post office for pickup this morning. Unfortunately I won’t be able to pick them up until I’m out of work, but I’m relieved that they’re here at least.
     
  10. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

    Well I’m blown away. Out of 6, not 3, 6, that were sent, 4 are healthy L2 nymphs, one is a healthy L1, and unfortunately one casualty. Pictures to come after I get more cups for the extra few.
     
  11. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

  12. ToxoHP

    ToxoHP Previously LamboMantisMan23

    Damm man, well done! Make sure you cover the top with fine mesh.
     
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  13. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnobaron Active Member

    Well, the one that was an instar behind molted but fell, however I managed to catch it quickly and prop him up to dry fast enough that he should be able to recover with some special attention. The rest outright refuse any food I’ve offered outside of pre killed pieces, but are doing very well and are lively.