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Can spiders eat chicken eggs?

Discussion in 'True Spiders & Other Arachnids' started by Cororon, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    Hello!

    I'm new to this forum and please forgive me if this is a stupid question! :shame:

    I have a couple of Steatoda bipunctata spiders that have lived with me for almost a year now. I've fed them flightless fruit flies during the winter, but I don't like having to do that because the fly cultures always end up with nasty grain mites.

    I got an idea and what to know what you think of it. Sure, these spiders can go months without food, but I wonder if I can feed them tiny rectangles of boiled eggs (or poached scrambled eggs)? There are plenty of proteins and nutrients in eggs.

    Maybe I could put the tiny egg piece on the web and then poke it carefully with a needle so the spider will think it's a live insect and come down to "catch" it. I have done that with mosquitos I've killed, and managed to lure the spoods to catch them. Works every time. :cool: Without poking them the spiders seem to think it's just debris.
     
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  2. Ratmosphere

    Ratmosphere Arachnoprince

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    No.
     
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  3. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    I hoped for more detailed replies than that. :)
     
  4. Ungoliant

    Ungoliant Malleus Aranearum Staff Member

    Is it capable of digesting (liquefying) eggs? Probably. Is it likely to eat eggs? No.
     
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  5. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    Alright, I think it shall be an interesting experiment if I decide to try it. One of the males likes to sit in the middle of his web to eat, so he's the best candidate. The other two always take the food with them to their hiding places. But they have plenty of insects for now, so there's no hurry. :)
     
  6. schmiggle

    schmiggle Arachnoprince Active Member

    If you are thinking of experimenting, I would actually do it now so that you know if you want to think of something else when you actually need it. Given that it's unlikely to work, it's worth trying it early so you know if these spiders even might eat eggs.
     
  7. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoangel Active Member

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    Feed them crickets or something similar.
     
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  8. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    Hm, I might do it the next time I buy eggs. These spiders have slow metabolism and can go months without food, but I sure won't let them even begin to starve. If they don't like eggs I'll get them fruit flies, even though I hate those. Oh, the responsibility!

    Maybe, if I can find really tiny ones. I gave them Drosophila hydei flies last winter. When the female spood left her old web I looked through her garbage pile and found thin mosquitos, small flies, springtails, tiny beetles and a pseudoscorpion. And lots of spood poop. :D A month later she came back. She checked out her old web, but decided to build a new one on the bottom of a floor lamp. She had no idea that another spider lived just a few inches away. They met eachother for the first time last week. :D
     
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  9. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoangel Active Member

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    These are adults? If so fruit flies are too small. They can take large crickets as adults.
     
  10. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    Drosophila hydei are the bigger fruit flies. This is Big Neighbour carrying a hydei this spring. He's an adult now, but except for the male palps not much bigger. They save the leftovers for later, so they get at least two meals out of those little flies. :) The biggest things they have caught have been crane flies and stone flies. All three spiders live near the floor so I can't clean that part of the room without disturbing the webs, so big dead insects on the floor isn't that fun. And I sit only three feet from them.

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  11. schmiggle

    schmiggle Arachnoprince Active Member

    Oh, these are living in your house? Are you sure they don't catch some prey naturally during the winter? My house definitely gets more bugs when it's warm out, but I would hardly say that we have none in the winter.

    I also think these guys could probably handle at least medium sized crickets--that's one thing a web is good for, if you will.
     
  12. The wolf

    The wolf Arachnobaron Active Member

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    My s.nobilis hasn't eaten in months,her last meal was an adult cricket and she's still so fat I would worry that she may explode which I've had happen with a bipunctata

    They can make it through the winter on nothing at all but they will find something when ur not watching
     
  13. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    Yes, I think they were born here last summer and are siblings. Winter had just started when I found them, and I couldn't throw them out in the snow. I don't see many insects in my house during winter. One or two pseudoscorpions maybe, but I'm not sure what they eat. There could be some tiny critters around that I'm not aware of.

    Brrr, dead crickets on the floor... I'll think about it.

    I don't want any pets and the responsibility that comes with it, but these little freeloaders are just too nice and cute!
     
  14. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoangel Active Member

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    This is interesting. I thought these were in enclosures rather than housemates. I have a S.Grossa who I haven’t fed for at least a month. Somehow she still has 6-7 egg sacs though. She’s probably eating her children.
     
  15. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    Yeah, you sure don't want to overfeed them. I once read that the record holder for a spider to go without food and water was a bipunctata and 18 months.

    Sometimes when I have the window open I'm like "please please, walk out and try to find a mate!" But no. Instead a male came in through the window and visited one of my spiders for a while.

    Maybe your S.Grossa has eaten a couple of her eggs? Some spiders eat their own silk, but I'm not sure if the Steatodas do that? Must be lots of protein in the egg sac silk.
     
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  16. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoangel Active Member

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    Nah, the eggs only increase in number. It’s like a self sustaining colony I have here.
     
  17. schmiggle

    schmiggle Arachnoprince Active Member

    You wouldn't expect to see most of them, I don't think. We have house centipedes that I think have a sizeable population, yet I can go months without seeing one. The pseudoscorpions are eating even smaller arthropods, so you probably have springtails or something similar as well.
     
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  18. Cororon

    Cororon Arachnopeon

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    I have seen the spoods nibble on springtails. There used to be lots of springtails outside around the window, and some came in. I guess they are still around, but not as many as before. When I see pseudoscorpions I always wish them good luck. ^^
     
  19. WildSpider

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    S. grossa is actually the spider that got me started in this hobby. I had caught it, threw it in a jar and forgot about it:arghh:. Probably a few months later I found it, decided to toss it a fly and have been hooked ever since;).
     
  20. Smokehound714

    Smokehound714 Arachnoking Active Member

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    Actually, ive been experimenting with non-prey foods and egg is one of my success stories. it works best if the egg is cooked a bit first.

    Small pieces of chicken have been working too. Some people have even got spiders to eat fish flakes. finding an alternate food source is always a good thing in case your feeder connects fail.
     
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