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ATTN: Poecilotheria owner, breeder or dealer.

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by ClosetCollector, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. nunoskii

    nunoskii Arachnopeon Arachnosupporter

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    Wow this is ridiculous, seems like theyre trying to do this with every exotic animal now a days. This should definitely apply to more than just breeders.
     
  2. Tenevanica

    Tenevanica Arachnodemon

    I just noticed this a few days ago. Are Pokies still legal?
     
  3. dementedlullaby

    dementedlullaby Arachnoknight

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    This post is pretty old and as far as I'm aware they have not passed any laws in the US banning hobbyists from owning Poecilotheria species. Maybe this is different on a state by state basis? Perhaps someone with more knowledge about the current laws will chime in. I'm not American so not 100% sure.

    Still legal in Canada to own them and probably most of Europe.

    I hear Italy might be a different story but I don't care enough to keep up with their laws as I never plan to move to Italy.
     
  4. Tenevanica

    Tenevanica Arachnodemon

    Yeah, I haven't seen anything that prohibits it here in Colorado at least. It wouldn't surprise me if they're banned somewhere based on the track record that the USDA has. Exotic beetles? BANNED! Exotic millipedes? BANNED! Any and all phasmids? BANNED! I swear, I might move to Canada just so I can keep these animals without shelling out $15,000 for a permit.
     
  5. This is because they dont approve of captive breeding? Why the hell not?
     
  6. dementedlullaby

    dementedlullaby Arachnoknight

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    Haha we can't legally own a lot of bugs here as well. Actually the list is probably longer in Canada. We can't own stags/other beetles, mantids, millipedes, dubia (and many other roach species), stick insects. I'm probably missing a bunch of others. Pretty sure you need to be a certified zoo or entomology department. I think also Universities can legally own collections but not sure.

    Anyway it's not so much better across the border either :(.
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  7. Tenevanica

    Tenevanica Arachnodemon

    Jeez, I thought it was just a USA thing. At least we can own all roach species (except in Florida) and mantids. I feel bad for you, I honestly do. I think that these governments need to chill out and trust that the few people that are in to this hobby won't release hordes of insects in agricultural zones. Especially in Canada, where it is too cold for these animals 9 months out of the year!
     
  8. There has been no ban. I highly recommend following USARK, if you do not already.
     
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  9. Steve Rankin

    Steve Rankin Arachnopeon

     
  10. Philth

    Philth N.Y.H.C. Arachnosupporter

    I'm going to cut and paste what I said in the "other thread"...

    A few things...
    • This is a old thread about the potential lose of Poecilotheria in U.S. collections due to the ESA listing of 11 Poecilotheria species from from 2 years ago. It has since fell through, so no point in commenting here about it anymore.
    • On a related topic, recently 5 Peocilotheria species from Sri Lanka were put on the chopping block again by the USFWS for the ESA. There were many threads here and on Facebook encouraging people to take action when it was needed. The time to do that is also over, so if you are now upset, outraged, or just want to help, you already missed the boat. The judgment on that one is still pending.
    • I agree this thread has nothing to do with handling, but since this thread no longer has a relevant topic, what makes the difference lol.
    Later, Tom
     
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  11. This is very much the same thing that is happening in the fishing world. "If the crown pleases, may I fish in such and such a spot?" Keep in mind to follow the money. Catch shares are driving the "Marine Protected Environments"
    How does this tie into T's? I'll tell you...the "science" Same scheme, different venue. Keep your powder dry gentlemen.