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A seemanni fell and ruptured abdomen..

Discussion in 'Tarantula Chat' started by SiegfriedX, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. SiegfriedX

    SiegfriedX Arachnopeon

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    My adult female A. seemanni fell and it's abdomen ruptured right around its spinneret. Clear liquid was oozing out so I panicked and used superglue to seal the wound before I realized that I probably blocked its anus. :( Is this going to kill my T? Now I am feeling stupid because I fear that the open wound might not be as fatal as a blocked anus...
     
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  2. Arachnoclown

    Arachnoclown Arachnosquire

  3. Arachnoclown

    Arachnoclown Arachnosquire

    Being first aid trained I would have used something natural to stop the bleeding like corn startch...Ive never had a T split it's abdomen in my care...maybe @cold blood can help.
     
  4. McGruder

    McGruder Arachnopeon

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    That's so sad, I hope she's okay!
     
  5. SiegfriedX

    SiegfriedX Arachnopeon

    Here are two pictures. I’m kicking myself for having sealed the wound this way. She’s still moving but is stressed. Yes next time when something like this happens (hopefully not!), I’ll use corn starch or flour... But this time :( Is there anything I can do to remedy the situation?
     

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  6. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    That's pretty bad...I would be shocked if the t survived.

    But yeah, blocking the anus (which may have already been rendered useless) isn't good....ts do die from impaction.
     
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  7. SiegfriedX

    SiegfriedX Arachnopeon

    Oh no I really hope it survives... Is there anything I can do at this point? Like removing part of the glue?
     
  8. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know how you could possibly go about removing the glue. I think its just a wait and see....best of luck, crazier things have happened.
     
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  9. Arachnoclown

    Arachnoclown Arachnosquire

    Sorry bud...:( Hopefully it pulls through.
     
  10. sdsnybny

    sdsnybny Arachnogeek Arachnosupporter

    Sorry to see that your T is in such bad shape. Best thing you can do is wait and see while you contemplate steps needed to prevent it from happening again.
     
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  11. KezyGLA

    KezyGLA Arachnoking Active Member

    I really hope there is no internal damage and this molts very soon.
     
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  12. Ant

    Ant Arachnopeon

    Hope she's OK although that looks pretty terrible. Can you post some pictures of her enclosure?
     
  13. Nada

    Nada Arachnoknight

    there's not much you can do at this point. you can try using some oil on a cottonswab to try and break down the glue a bit; but it looks like you used a pretty significant amount.
    for future reference, less is more. try to use as little glue as possible, and only if the would is obviously fatal otherwise.
    corn starch,flour, even cigarette ashes are other options
    good luck.
     
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  14. Formerphobe

    Formerphobe Arachnoking Arachnosupporter

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    You could try some olive oil on a cotton swab to loosen up the glue. Unfortunately, I doubt it will be very effective.
    You also run the risk of tearing the abdomen more with additional manipulations.
    Acetone will remove superglue from some surfaces, but would kill your spider.
    With the spinnerets and nether regions glued down, you can only hope that the spider was near a molt and will molt out, soon.
    Just doesn't look very promising.
     
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  15. Anoplogaster

    Anoplogaster Arachnobaron Active Member

    Not good! I don’t think your T has much chance of surviving this. Even if it tries to molt, that amount of glue would likely cause molt complications.

    How did the fall happen?
     
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  16. Yeah, if the tear was big enough, the glue couldve seeped in and stuck to something important. That could be ugly.
     
  17. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    What did it fall off?
     
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  18. SiegfriedX

    SiegfriedX Arachnopeon

    Thank you guys so much for the replies. The fall was entirely my fault. I let her sit around on my desk (This is the only T in my collection that I handle at all, others are OWs or arboreals) while I was working at my desk. She's usually calm but this time somehow decided to dart towards the edge of the desk and fell ~3 feet onto the hardwood floor. I was dumbfounded. I rehoused her recently so maybe that's why she's behaving a little skittish? She usually moves slowly or does not move at all, so I loosened guard. But that's no excuse for being negligent. :depressed:

    I'm at work so I will post a picture of the enclosure when I get home... I checked on her this morning and she was sitting on the side of the enclosure with the glued part submerged in the water dish. I've never seen her doing that before. Maybe she's aware that something's wrong with her rear end and is trying to remove it?

    I tried to clear up the liquid (presumably blood?) oozing out using some paper napkin, it was mostly clear liquid with a little bit of orange-ish stuff. The liquid kept oozing out slowly when I applied the glue, and the glue turned into the opaque thing when it touched the liquid. That's why there's a huge mess...

    If she manages to molt, how soon will it be? Now I am really worried that it will die from the gluing instead of from the wound. She's my sweetest kitten and all I can do now is to watch her dying entirely due to my stupidity.:(
     
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  19. Venom1080

    Venom1080 Arachnoemperor Active Member

    Book marking this thread for when a beginner asks whats wrong with handling..

    Sorry man, must suck.
     
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  20. SiegfriedX

    SiegfriedX Arachnopeon

    Yeah I'm a sterling example... Even the most docile T's can be unpredictable and one should NEVER EVER (kicking myself again) run the risk of them falling onto a hard surface.
     
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