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A. avic paralyzed after molt!

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by christinas, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:38 PM.

  1. christinas

    christinas Arachnosquire

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    My A. avic appears to be dying. He molted 4 days ago, and now is curled up in a ball and his legs don't work - they are bent at the edges and he is unable to walk up straight, instead just keeps dragging himself. I am linking a video:



    I understand there is probably nothing I can do for him at this stage but want to know what I did wrong and how to prevent this in the future.
     
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  2. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    Legs curl because of dehydration most often (pesticides can cause it as well).

    Give water.

    Molting is a demanding process, it takes a lot out of them.
     
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  3. christinas

    christinas Arachnosquire

    He has not been exposed to pestidices (I have another spider of the same size in an enclosure next to his that molted fine). I put him in a plastic cup with a wet paper towel on the bottom. Are you saying he might recover?
     
  4. boina

    boina Lady of the mites Arachnosupporter

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    Yes, I agree, this may be severe dehydration. Hang the front end of the tarantula in a water bowl. It needs to drink. Wet paper towel does nothing except breed bacteria.
     
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  5. christinas

    christinas Arachnosquire

    How do I know if he is drinking? I stuck him in a water bowl and he's completely wet but I don't see any movement around his mouth.
     
  6. cold blood

    cold blood Moderator Staff Member

    I didn't insinuate he was...I said dehydration.

    You wont. Its barely discernable....Just keep its mouthparts submerged.
     
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  7. christinas

    christinas Arachnosquire

    Oh, he's not going to drown I hope
     
  8. Hannahs Herps

    Hannahs Herps Arachnopeon Active Member

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    Tarantulas rarely drown. Just make sure its mouth is submerged but its book lungs are out of the water
     
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  10. Hannahs Herps

    Hannahs Herps Arachnopeon Active Member

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    He is dehydrated. Please put his mouth into a water bowl before hes gonna for good
     
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  11. Stratton

    Stratton Arachnopeon Active Member

    Agreed, just put his mouth in the water and leave him there for a while or until he moves out himself. It's all you can do really.
     
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  12. Polenth

    Polenth Arachnoknight Active Member

    Tarantulas don't breathe through their mouths, so you can safety submerge the mouth. The book lungs are on the abdomen (the main body bit at the back). So stick the front in the water and keep the back out of the water.
     
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  13. chanda

    chanda Arachnoprince Active Member

    Completely wet - all over? I really hope you just put his mouthparts in the water, and not the entire spider! Tarantulas rarely drown - but if you submerged the underside of his abdomen (which is where his book lungs are located) and he's too weak to get out, that's exactly what you might have done.
     
  14. christinas

    christinas Arachnosquire

    I was holding him with my fingers, submerging his head in the water. That part was completely wet, that's what I meant. Initially he was squirming but then after a while he stopped and has not moved since.

    Edit: Actually that's not quite true, his legs were clasping at my fingers when I pulled him out of the water and was touching him. After a while even this movement stopped and now he is dead.
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM
  15. Stratton

    Stratton Arachnopeon Active Member

    Sorry to hear that. Sometimes a molt is just too stressful on their bodies. It could have been a lot of things that caused this. Either he was dehydrated and never drank any water in his premolt, possibly a feeder insect could have had something toxic in it's stomach when your T. ate it (such as a pesticide or Styrofoam which they have been known to eat) or there was a problem in his molt itself.
    Unfortunately you may never know. I'd just recommend that you focus on your other T.s and make sure that their enclosures are maintained with a water dish of some kind in them, especially if you notice that they are in premolt.
     
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  16. christinas

    christinas Arachnosquire

    All of my Ts have a water dish ... For avics I am using the adult enclosure from Jamie's tarantulas, so it should have proper ventilation. People on here advise not to mist so I didn't and the substrate itself was dry but the water dish was full.
     
  17. Ungoliant

    Ungoliant Malleus Aranearum Staff Member

    Yes, that's how you want to keep Avics.
     
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  18. TriMac33

    TriMac33 Arachnopeon Active Member

    Was its water dish full all throughout it's premolt? My A. Avic is a drinking machine in premolt! I give her a dish and pipette her web with droplets and she'll drink it right in front of me if shes in premolt. It's hard to say in your case if it was dehydration, but I'm definitely leaning more towards that, if there was no chance of pesticides.
     
  19. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

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    This isn't proof your T wasn't exposed to toxins. We have people who had Ts in the same room, exposed to toxins, some died, the others didn't. Until you test for toxins (assuming there was something in the air) you won't know.
     
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