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“Banana spider” circumstance

Discussion in 'True Spiders & Other Arachnids' started by Ratmosphere, Jan 11, 2018.

If you found Phoneutria in banana bag, would you

  1. Keep it

    29 vote(s)
    67.4%
  2. Contact authorities/media about it

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Kill it

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. None of the above

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    23.3%
  1. Ratmosphere

    Ratmosphere Arachnoprince Active Member

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    If you were to have bought bananas from the store and notice a big Phoneutria stuck inside the bag what would you do? Decide to keep it? Contact the news/higher power and make a report on it? Kill it? What would you do! I definitely would keep it. Let me know your thoughts!
     
  2. Anoplogaster

    Anoplogaster Arachnobaron

    I really don’t think you’ll get many people on here who wouldn’t keep it:hilarious:
     
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  3. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoking Active Member

    I'd keep it and put it up for sale ASAP. I don't want it killed or made out to a media circus, but I'm not keeping it myself, too potent, too defensive and too speedy :eek:
     
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  4. sdsnybny

    sdsnybny Arachnogeek Arachnosupporter

    Yeah kinda like asking a carpenter if the would use free nails
     
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  5. Ratmosphere

    Ratmosphere Arachnoprince Active Member

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    You'd be surprised!
     
  6. MetalMan2004

    MetalMan2004 Arachnobaron Active Member

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    I can’t feel right ordering one for myself with kids around but if one just happened to show up then destiny has spoken!
     
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  7. pannaking22

    pannaking22 Arachnoking Active Member

    Hard to say. Probably keep it, but whether I keep it alive or dead is the question. It would be a great addition to my dead specimen collection, but I'd probably want to enjoy it a bit first before I did.

    This is also assuming it's actually Phoneutria, since the vast majority of those banana spiders are Cupiennius.
     
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  8. chanda

    chanda Arachnoprince Active Member

    If it was really a Phoneutria species and not a Cupiennius or other hitchhiking Ctenid, I would pass it along to someone else.

    While I do consider myself a careful keeper, I don't want to keep anything that venomous, just in case it somehow got out. I have kids and pets to think about - plus I use my inverts in the classroom every summer. Accidents do happen - like the morning the assistant headmaster unlocked my classroom door before I arrived, and I walked in to find one of the kids with his hand inside the now-open scorpion tank. (Fortunately, it was just an emperor scorpion - and even more fortunately, he wasn't stung - but after that day, I made sure I had my own set of keys, so nobody else would unlock my door!) Or like the recent scare when I was out of town visiting family, and my husband accidentally left the M. balfouri tank ajar all weekend. (Fortunately, that one turned out ok - I just saw all five spiders in the tank where they belong!)

    Of course, I'd take lots of pictures of it before passing it along - and if it wasn't a Phoneutria I'd definitely keep it!
     
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  9. Jonroe

    Jonroe Arachnopeon

    Nope, illegal to keep in my country*. I'd be lying if I said they wouldn't raise some morbid facination in me though.

    *My "state", Bundesland, Kanton what not thing
     
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  10. darkness975

    darkness975 Brachypelma darknessi Arachnosupporter

    I would not kill it, but I would also not keep it. While I am fascinated by the species, I would not want to keep something that venomous around, regardless of how many years of experience with invertebrates I have.

    Some things are just not worth the risk.
     
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  11. basin79

    basin79 Arachnoking Active Member

    Keep it without even thinking about it.

    The really, really hard thing for me would be to not take pics and record videos of it and NOT share them.
     
  12. Draketeeth

    Draketeeth Arachnoknight

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    I'd probably keep it, but would likely be ignorant of what exactly I had other than a cool huntsman type spider. If it seemed in good shape after shipping and the store, and would likely survive, it would be really neat to do a planted tank for. Probably not as destructive as a tarantula, cool camo colors, free exotic spider. As long as you keep your hands clear and the tank secure (which most here would do with any spider) then it's fine. :p
     
  13. RTTB

    RTTB Arachnoprince Active Member

    I would pass it on to an expert. I have zero desire to keep such a dangerous super fast highly venomous spider.
     
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  14. The Snark

    The Snark هرج و مرج مهندس Old Timer

    In my situation, this would be an extremely complex problem.

    First I'd zoom to my entomologist buddy, waking him up at 02:30 if need be. "Who the heck is importing Phoneutria and why??" Obviously importing them deliberately since importing bananas here is like importing corn to Nebraska.
    Next he would pack us and spider off to North Chiang Mai University, (just south of Chiang Mai), our reasonably reputable animal husbandry center, where we would head bang the conundrum with an elite group of fellow enthusiasts. Should we bring it to the attention of customs? Can we find a non corrupt customs official?

    The entire scenario could keep us busy for days or weeks and probably involve a lot of clandestine intrigue.

    PS The poll needs a None of the Above.
     
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  15. Ratmosphere

    Ratmosphere Arachnoprince Active Member

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  16. maggiefiasco

    maggiefiasco Arachnopeon Active Member

    I live in an animal friendly house with 6 cats, a hairless dog, a snake and god knows what else kind of pets we are bringing in, lol. Just for the safety of the other animals, I can't even feel right with housing OW T's much less something as fast and venomous as this. In a perfect world, I'd love to say "Oh, I'd keep it!" because how cool would that be? But like many others here, I just cant rationalize that kind of risk for the other living creatures in my home, not even so much for me.
     
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  17. Connectimyrmex

    Connectimyrmex Arachnopeon Active Member

    If I found one, it would be in a terrarium faster than I can say "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"

    I'd also probably go back to the grocery store and search for another one amongst the bananas.
     
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  18. RTTB

    RTTB Arachnoprince Active Member

    I leave Phoneutria to the adrenaline junkies who enjoy keeping Black Mambas, Taipans, and the like. Not my cup of venom.
     
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  19. Connectimyrmex

    Connectimyrmex Arachnopeon Active Member

    The farthest I've ever gotten on the venom scale is Polistes and Scolopendra, probably not going farther than that unless I get the banana spider opportunity :p
     
  20. Nonnack

    Nonnack Arachnoknight

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    I wouldn't feel comfortable keeping something that venomous. Besides I am not really into true spiders. I would pass it to someone who I know will want it. Unofficially ofc, because its kind of illegal to keep it where I live ;)
     
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