Enjoy Pink Toe. Identifying Avics via a picture is not possible, for all but a few, for tons of reasons. Search the forum for similar posts and you'll see why.
Yea that seems to be the consensus if it's not from a reputable breeder than it could be 1 of like 5 different types or morph types I will never breed it I just figured it came from pet store and the people I got it from said it was a pink toe more than likely A.A
In all likelihood it's probably an A. avic, generally speaking that is what most pet stores get in for Avics more often than not.It's not A. minaxtrix or A. purpurea.
@CEC I don't like to call em from a single pic or even a few in some cases. Besides, Advan once gave me crap once on "ID'ing", even though I wasn't telling the owner what it was, and told the owner not to ID by pics. So since then, I'd rather not deal w/that crap again. Do it all you want, you have to deal with him, not me.
@viper69 I thought you'd say variegata since it's not mature yet. Lol Possible since it's only one picture, but highly unlikely. Once it's mature, it should be obvious.
Different ball game since the revision. All those Avicularia avicularia look alike pet trade species are considered Avicularia avicularia now. If there was another valid species that was an Avicularia avicularia look alike, I wouldn't be saying it is. Now, what you can't tell in the picture is what color form/locality it is and for breeding you need to know the morphotype and locality in order to breed(to not mix color forms). To be fair, even the ones bought labeled as Avicularia avicularia shouldn't be bred without locality data, although, we have to believe some or most CB are already mixed color forms/localities. I don't know why you'd breed these anyway, they are worthless and freebies at best. As long as the thousands of WC keep pouring in.
Well variegata is easy to spot for obvious reasons. One of my all time favorites, esp the females.
I wouldn't breed this one at all.
Eh, I've read up on importing and exporting exotics long before I was in Ts. It's such a shady game. I'll say it here, if you aren't down there in the locality capturing the animals yourself, in many cases you can't trust the exporters if you don't know them well. There are so many loopholes. You 'can' name a species A. avic, even if you don't know what it is, just because a given species can be legally exported. It's such a shady operation.
Obviously we can recognized many species as adults, and some even as juvies, but not all.
As for all those morphotypes, I would find hard to believe that such undescribed species as geroldi, the Goliath, A metallica and A sp. Kwitara River and others, are all the same species, and merely locality variation. Sure it's possible, I just don't think so myself.
@viper69 A. variegata are easy to distinguish from A. avicularia at adult stage, which brings me to my point. That is the closest valid species that remotely resembles Avicularia avicularia at adult stage. All those other pet trade species you mentioned, are the pre-revision Avicularia avicularia look alike species that are now considered color forms of Avicularia avicularia whether you agree or not.
I don't challenge the revision's conclusions at all having raised many of these species. It has always been suspected those species you mentioned were just color forms of Avicularia avicularia. To me these findings are not a surprise, but rather, a confirmation.
The problem is, that we do not know for sure, that morphotypes aren't different species. Even Fukushima states that they might be cryptic species. Futhermore we don't know how all those Avicularia spp. got mixed in the last 20 years or so. There are definetely some distinct species or at least morphotypes that were sold under the same name. So even if there is only one similar looking species, noone knows whether it really corresponds to this one since it could also be a hybrid or smth.
So I would never try to identify a specimen, that was not wildcaught, by picture. I would even doubt identifications based on exuviae due to possible hybridisation.
Yeah guys definitely not planning on breeding her but I would like to find my newly matured p vittata female a man if any of you have one you would part with let me know
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