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Tarantula Peru ID

hey, can anyone suggest what the species or genus may be? found in the Peruvian Amazon in Madre de Dios, Tambopata. large black tarantula about 7 inches and when i freaked him out he flashed a blue colour. Pamphobeteus antinous maybe?

Tarantula Peru ID
ajteres, Oct 31, 2018
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    • antinous
      I’ve been to the area and seen this species. People just call it ‘Pamphobeteus sp. Tambopata’
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    • cold blood
      looks like a Pamphobetus...antinous would be my guess.
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    • antinous
      @cold blood antinous is found in Bolivia, people have just started calling all black Pamphobeteus in Peru antinous even though its wrong
    • Nightstalker47
      @Phormic28 Whats your source on this? There are several variants of this species, the largest of which is found in Peru.
    • antinous
      @Nightstalker47 My apologies, should have said what I commented is that it isn't a fact. I was told by a local vet/tarantula hobbyist there that it isn't 'antinous' and he was saying in Peru, they call it Pamphobeteus sp. Tambopata. @cold blood my bad if I was wrong, didn't have a scientific source behind this. I was also told there's a large black species of Pampho that has a 'Christmas' pattern on it's abdomen from that area too, so I thought it wouldn't be in the antinous complex at all either, but could be wrong.
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    • Nightstalker47
      @Phormic28 No worries. Pamphobeteus as a whole is pretty messed up right now, hopefully the genus gets sorted soon...leave it to the taxonomist's though lol.

      Labeling these via locale is the best we can do for now. I believe the spider pictured above is what were currently seeing sold in the hobby as Pamphobeteus cf. antinous (Peru).
    • antinous
      @Nightstalker47 Interesting, I was under the impression that the cf. antinous was from Iquitos (along with the sp. 'arana pollito'). And you're right, it is a mess sadly. If you eevr get the chance to visit South America, visit Ecuador or Peru, you'll see the difference in Pamphobeteus, you could be in one area and see a species of them and drive only an hour away and see a completely new species of Pampho.
    • The Grym Reaper
      Most likely Pamphobeteus antinous (Peruvian Steely Blue), they're sold in the UK as "P. antinous (Big Black)" IIRC
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    • KezyGLA
      Pamphobeteus cf. antinous (Peru)
    • xenesthis
      Your tarantula should probably be called: "Pamphobeteus antinous (locality: Madre de Dios, Tambopata)"

      The large Pamphobeteus in the Madre de Dios region of Peru and NW Bolivia are considered to be the infamous "Chicken Spiders" or "arana pollito". They have thicker legs than than the Pamphobeteus cf. antinous found in the northeastern part of Peru. Their legs are almost "Theraphosa thick!" and this species can achieve 9.5"+ leg spans. The "big black" Pamphobeteus cf. antinous have been collected around Pucallpa, Peru along the Ucayali River in the Amazonian rainforest of eastern Peru. Throw into the confusion of all this is that P. grandis is collected in NE Peru and exported in the last 10 years and sold as "P. antinous" by exporters in Peru and then in error by U.S. importers. Note the "big black" Pamphobeteus cf. antinous are calmer and sometimes in the adult females "docile" compared the the high strung and semi-aggressive P. grandis southeast of Iquitos, Peru. Now to blow everybody's mind, the light color form of Pamphobeteus fortis is found near Pucallpa, Peru. The dark form is found in Colombia. Yes, the genus needs full revision - bad!
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