Pink Toed
Gillian Pajor

Pink Toed

Can anyone tell me what species of Pink Toed this is? I know its dark but it has an orangish-brownish abdomen with a black line dead center down the middle and 3 dots on the sides of the abdomen as well.
A lot of species in the Avicularia genus look almost identical. The exceptions are minatrix, versicolor, purpurea and a couple of others.
 
@atraxrobustus Likely some Avicularia avicularia variant if from a pet store. It's possible but its not very likely anything thing else. It's definitely a juvenile. It could be "metallica" (Avicularia avicularia morphotype #6). IDK why not? They aren't different from pet Avicularia avicularia(morphotype #1) until adult colors set in... Pet stores, for the most part, carry wild caught and usually from Guyana which has one species documented --> Avicularia avicularia and two morphotypes 1# & #6. These two morphotypes inhabit the same areas which explains why you will see both types from one "pink toe" import.
 
@CEC That's interesting enough- I wouldn't think most pet stores would offer wild caught due to the issue of their need to precisely identify both for safety reasons and for the legal reason of avoiding fraud.
 
@atraxrobustus I don't believe that's an issue, they don't import them, they usually buy from other reptile businesses who import them.
It makes sense to me why they offer WC, especially the big chains. They need to buy thousands of them to supply their stores at the lowest price possible. Also preferably juveniles and adults but most captive bred breeders/dealers can't supply that as they mainly deal in slings. Older Ts are easier to take care of, more appealing in a display case and sell better.
 
@CEC keep in mind it becomes a rather big issue where illegal (i.e. smuggled specimens) are de facto "contraband"- meaning there is a potential for criminal charges for mere "possession". So then you get the liability issue of proving in good-faith that the individual specimens weren't illegally smuggled into the country. I would think that one would see more domestic species, like A. hentzi in the pet stores than something like an Avic- their obtainable without import / export., and at least in my opinion, a bit more docile and easier to work with than an arboreal- Particularly since they don't have as much of a humidity issue.
 
@atraxrobustus I get what your saying but obviously it's not an issue for whatever reason. It's well known that pet stores often sell WC. This isn't anything new they have been doing it for many, many years so the issues you speak of are not significant enough for them to stop.

PS. Although you may read Avicularia need high humidity, it is out-dated info and completely false. I learned this the hard way many years ago when I first started keeping Avicularia. Now after 100's of Avicularia raised from slings, I can confidently say that the need for highly humidity is potentially more dangerous. Avicularia don't need much humidity at all, I have kept mine on the drier side, much like Aphonopelma. The difference is Avicularia need good ventilation and constant supply of drinking water to keep them from dehydrating, unlike Aphonopelma which are hardier in times without drinking water available and don't need the extra ventilation.
 
And in my experience, Avicularia avicularia are more docile than Aphonopelma hentzi. I have had a few Aphonopelma give me threat poses and had them bite prodding tools, while in the large amount of Avicularia avicularia I have had, none have given me a threat display or tried to bite any prodding tool.
 

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