P. murinus?

OldHag · Oct 3, 2004

I know Ive asked this before. But as this baby gets older I just dont know!! I got it as a C. marshalli. Ive come to the conclusion its NOT that. But it doesnt look ANYTHING like my other P. murinus! Its VERY docile VERY VERY docile!! The femers on the first two legs are BLACK on the inner side. Very black. The picture doesnt show it very good of course but trust me. My female murinus doesnt have that black, and she sports the "evil temperment". This little one is also not as orange. Its gotta be some kind of Baboon....

Any ideas? Is it still a P. murinus? The Tan phase?

Thanks for humoring me..
Michelle

OldHag · Oct 3, 2004

Oops...put it in the wrong place

Thought I was in questions and answers..Im such a nerd :O

mouse · Oct 3, 2004

i don't know much about the different types, but isn't there a fort hall/lugardi and a stoutleg and a featherleg? maby it's one of those? the OBT i bought is about 1 1/2" and it isn't badtempered... yet.
dianne
it does have the starburst type pattern on the back...

JeffG · Oct 3, 2004

i havent the slightest clue, but that is a nice T.

Lochala · Oct 3, 2004

it sould be the regular morph. MAANN, she has a big booty!! :}

Brian S · Oct 3, 2004

OldHag said:
Oops...put it in the wrong place Thought I was in questions and answers..Im such a nerd :O

Careful there Hag, you are leaving yourself wide open for me to comment muhahahaha

It is definetly a Pterinochilus sp. It doesn't look like murinus but it kinda looks like P meridionalis but I wouldn't swear to it. Anyway looks like it has been eating plenty of SOWBUGS and looks to be healthy.

WayneT · Oct 3, 2004

Brian S said:
It is definetly a Pterinochilus sp. It doesn't look like murinus but it kinda looks like P meridionalis but I wouldn't swear to it. Anyway looks like it has been eating plenty of SOWBUGS and looks to be healthy.

Michelle, on the abdomen pattern alone, I wouldn't say it was a P. murinus, although the coloration on the front legs looks like it, especially in your first pic. But Pterinochilus sp. by all means. And out of respect and fear, I will graciously refrain from any sowbug remark!

Randy · Oct 4, 2004

my god is she gonna explode or wat.. LOL asnyway i'm not sure if it is a p murinus.. looks a little simmilar and looks a little different as well.. hmm

OldHag · Oct 4, 2004

Who said SowBugs weren't worth anything....Look at the Junk they put in THAT trunk!!! (NO, I dont feed her sowbugs)

I guess the mystery continues!

Michelle

JeffG--You like those Mayfairs??

David_F · Oct 4, 2004

I'm wondering if maybe someone crossed the tan color phase and the red/orange color phase P. murinus. You're photos do show a bit of orange and, IIRC, doesn't the TCF have darker femurs? Just a guess. It's been so long since I last saw a TCF that I don't remember for sure. Whatever the T is it will be interesting to see how it turns out when it gets bigger.

Garrick · Oct 4, 2004

Can you give us a picture of its underside?

Like this?

I'm looking for that Ceratogyrus "belly band".

OldHag · Oct 5, 2004

Garrick
Heres its tummy....I tried to get it into a baggie to take the picture. Didnt quite trust it to not bite me. Darn thing was so calm I just.....picked it up

Never even bothered it!! Its biding its time...It will lure me into a false sense of security and WHAM!!! it will tag me!!

JeffG · Oct 5, 2004

OldHag said:
Who said SowBugs weren't worth anything....Look at the Junk they put in THAT trunk!!! (NO, I dont feed her sowbugs)

I guess the mystery continues!

Michelle

JeffG--You like those Mayfairs??

Lol yup yup, im a huge fan of Mrs. Rice.

OldHag · Oct 5, 2004

Jeff-- just finished Blackwood Farm and Blood canticle GOOD GOOD!!

K Im done hijacking

Michelle

JeffG · Oct 5, 2004

lmao...good but depressing considering its the last of the series
Back on Topic! Any further ideas on a definite ID?

Garrick · Oct 5, 2004

Congratulations. You have a Ceratogyrus species. See the "tummy band"?

-Garrick

OldHag · Oct 5, 2004

GREAT!! At least its in the family I purchased it as!! Now...which one is it?

C. meridionalis ? They dont have horns... I guess as it gets bigger Ill have to post more pictures on here til we've figured this critter out.

Thanks Garrick!

Michelle

Garrick · Oct 6, 2004

Go here:

Revision of Ceratogyrus by Gallon

As it grows, look at the handy keys, such as coloration on the undersides of the legs, etc. and compare it Gallon's paper.

-Garrick

Bean · Feb 24, 2005

Well, after taking another look at this guy at our meeting, I came across an article in Arachnoculture
that was very helpful.

Systematics, Identification, Ecology, and Geographic Distribution of Augacephalus junodi (Simon, 1904) [Araneae, Theraphosidae, Harpactirinae] -Lucian K. Ross

From what I can see, this is almost certainly from the Augacephalus genus, perhaps junodi.

The whole article was very complete and informative. Everything I read suggests Augacephalus. (my inexperience leaves plenty of room for error, of course) Just to name a few points that can be seen in the pictures:

Pterinochilus is ruled out due to the lack of long emergent setae on the chelicerea. (compare these pics with Pterniochilus, it's pretty obvious)
A. junodi does have the ventral opisthosoma band.
The contrasting light & dark (comparing ventral to dorsal) colors on legs I and II is a trait of A. junodi.

Pandora®©™ · Feb 24, 2005

I'm glad to know I'm not the only Anne Rice fan on the boards, I've read all her work, even the stuff she did under pin names!!

That a really good looking T although I have no idea what it is, I'm new to keeping T's so I do good to remember which ones I have when people use the sci names for them lol.

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