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Steven

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yeah quite impressive,.... my nephew used to have some of those goldfishes,.. till they ate eachother :rolleyes:
 

Crotalus

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That video disturbs me. I dont like the comments on it, sounds like two braindead Beavis & Butthead imitations making "heehhee...heee" comments.
Im not against feeding live animals as prey, I do it almost every day, but these guys dont care of the wellfare of their fish - they just enjoys see that rat die. Reminds me of stupid morons that bash cats or other animals for fun.
Same kind of people.

/Lelle
 

laila

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Dind't get the sound either.

But I see your point, Lelle....
 

Philth

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I didnt get any sound either, Although i kinda agree. A defrosted frozen mouse would of made just a good of video. I only use live food if i have to.
 

Buggin

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Dead or Alive, it makes no difference its a feeder animal.
 

manville

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that video is kindda cool..but at the same time grose..i dont think i would ever do that...how big are your piranhas? i have one not that big..
 

Buggin

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Originally posted by manville
how big are your piranhas?
That was just a vid I found on the net, they do not belong to me.
 

Mendi

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A real life version of JoeCartoon.com's Joe Fish... I think I like the gerbil version a little bit better though. :cool:
 

rapunzel

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I suppose that is what makes the world interesting..

Originally posted by Buggin
Dead or Alive, it makes no difference its a feeder animal.
it is full of all types of people.
You and I definitely have different views.
Dead or alive, does make a difference. The way something dies always makes a difference-from a feeder animal to a human.
It is what seperates the compassionate from the Saddams of the world. We have a choice on how to end a life, be it for food or for pleasure.
 

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Re: I suppose that is what makes the world interesting..

Originally posted by rapunzel
it is full of all types of people.
You and I definitely have different views.
Dead or alive, does make a difference. The way something dies always makes a difference-from a feeder animal to a human.
It is what seperates the compassionate from the Saddams of the world. We have a choice on how to end a life, be it for food or for pleasure.
Right on Kim.
I got your back.;)

Kill em clean, kill em fast..
Thats the way you do it, clean and fast..


E
 

Buggin

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So what is the humane way to kill a feeder.
Give a quick smack to the head (blunt trama), or let nature take its course, any way you feed a predatory pet animal is not pretty and if you find the death of a feeder mouse to be so tragic why do you even own a predatory pet?
:?

Maybe you should start raising Butterflies.
 
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rapunzel

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the only predatory pets I own are tarantulas

However, I have owned my share of them in the past. Also, I deal with rodents in research, and there IS a humane way to kill a 'feeder' animal before using it. There is also the risk of your prized pet being injured with live prey. Remember that while nature is not "pretty", many of those predators attain injuries in the wild, and they don't survive long.

The humane way to kill a mouse or rat is to pin it down where the neck joins the skull using a blunt object such as a pencil, laid across the base of the skull, grasp the tail and in one swift motion you pull down, then up and back up over the head. This is done firmly and swiflty and it seperates the neck from the skull, instantly killing the animal. This is the humane way approved by the Animal Welfare Act.

Owning a predator animal does not justify cruelty. Just because a prey animal is destined to die does not mean you do not have to take certain responsibilities for it . Telling me to start raising butterflies is not an effective argument for your beliefs, or against mine. I was not arguing with you that predator animals shouldnt be fed, I commented on your words: "Dead or Alive, it makes no difference its a feeder animal"
 

Buggin

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So snapping its neck is the prescribed method.
:rolleyes:

Tell the mouse that, I guess we will just have to say we will agree to disagree.

Have a nice day.
 

genious_gr

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Originally posted by Buggin
So what is the humane way to kill a feeder.
Give a quick smack to the head (blunt trama), or let nature take its course, any way you feed a predatory pet animal is not pretty and if you find the death of a feeder mouse to be so tragic why do you even own a predatory pet?
:?

Maybe you should start raising Butterflies.
So you're suggesting that torturing the mouse on video for fun before giving it to the predator is just the same as it will end up dead anyway?? You have to respect the feeder dude, it's just as much of an animal as the predator.

About the video:
:eek: That was quick!! I can't hear anything as well and what disturbes me is the way the piranhas eat. They hit and leave. Animals that dont kill their pray allways tend to disturb me, as seeing the pray strugilng for its life is sth i dont like.
Overall, a very interesting video.

It allways amazes me how much a hunted animal stays active in order to save itself. In the vid, the mouse after loosing a leg still tries to run away allthough I'd expect it to have fainted (Dont think animals faint though).Amazing nature....
 

Crotalus

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Originally posted by genious_gr
So you're suggesting that torturing the mouse on video for fun before giving it to the predator is just the same as it will end up dead anyway?? You have to respect the feeder dude, it's just as much of an animal as the predator.

About the video:
:eek: That was quick!! I can't hear anything as well and what disturbes me is the way the piranhas eat. They hit and leave. Animals that dont kill their pray allways tend to disturb me, as seeing the pray strugilng for its life is sth i dont like.
Overall, a very interesting video.

It allways amazes me how much a hunted animal stays active in order to save itself. In the vid, the mouse after loosing a leg still tries to run away allthough I'd expect it to have fainted (Dont think animals faint though).Amazing nature....
I´ve seen documentaries where people have been attacked by sharks and they dont feel any pain. I guess you can relate to that if you walked on broken glass under water, you never feel it until up from the water.
I dont really think the pain is severe in rat, its the guys attitude that disturbed me (well this was a soundfree version)

/Lelle
 
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